Lemondeduerl 3,239 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Levine said: I wonder if Rose if among the victims I don't know but Dita Von Teese attended to his birthday party last year and they splited more than 10 years ago. So maybe they didn't suffer any abuse. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu 37,216 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Luke78619 said: R. Kelly, Terry, TI and now Manson? you just can't collab with men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reez 533 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Omg this is crazy. Wasn't he on Fallon recently, if I'm not mistaken? I can't find that interview, it must have been deleted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,414 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Lumiere said: LoveGame (Chew Fu Ghettohouse Fix) is cancelled I literally was looking for this comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lumiere said: yeah it's a shame that she has work history with abusers Not to make this about Gaga, but to be fair the Manson & TI stuff wasn't known when she worked with them (Evan defended him pretty strongly back in the day after they first broke up). Really hoping fans don't use this situation to bash Gaga...not only because it's not about her but also because it's not fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Very sad. He said some very strange things about Evan back in the day, but she defended him & said he wasn't her abuser so I figured he was just an as*/bitter ex and not...you know abusive. To be clear I'm not trying to victim-blame Evan (I 100% believe her), but I do worry the media is going to turn on her because she denied this in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb the flame 7,321 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Lumiere said: yeah it's a shame that she has work history with abusers time for her to fully write, record produce, mix and master LG7 onwards OT: I dont have much knowledge on this situation but at least she's had the strength to name him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty 799 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 That’s horrible, I was a big fan so good to know this to stop that from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke78619 23,354 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, LilyLark said: Not to make this about Gaga, but to be fair the Manson & TI stuff wasn't known when she worked with them (Evan defended him pretty strongly back in the day after they first broke up). Really hoping fans don't use this situation to bash Gaga...not only because it's not about her but also because it's not fair. I don’t think anyone would hold it against Gaga like she should’ve known better, it’s just so unlucky that a large number of the men she’s collaborated with have done awful things in the years following or previous things come to light but obviously that’s nothing compared to the victims of these people, and it’s always good to hear them coming forward about their experiences insta: good_lukeing | I have nothing else to promote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wixson 5,004 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 No, not Manson... I loved that man dearly. Disappointed by his actions & saddened for the survivors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imnotyourbabe10 6,101 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Ugh, that’s awful! Sad to hear that happened to her. Keep feeling your truth! Manson helped me get into harder rock/metal music and I thought he was so intelligent and well-spoken. Like on his Fox News interview a while back. (Thank goodness for other metal musicians who are not problematic — like Rob Zombie and Andrew WK). Also, wasn’t Johnny Depp in a Manson MV? I know correlation doesn’t mean causation, but I was wondering if Depp’s allegations had been dismissed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Luke78619 said: I don’t think anyone would hold it against Gaga like she should’ve known better, it’s just so unlucky that a large number of the men she’s collaborated with have done awful things in the years following or previous things come to light but obviously that’s nothing compared to the victims of these people, and it’s always good to hear them coming forward about their experiences Yeah, I agree, and uh it's one of the reasons I don't want Gaga to collab with a very popular male artist that rhymes with Snake since I have a bad feeling sh*t is going to come out about him in the next several years. As far as Marilyn, twitter is full of psychos and there are so many victim blaming replies in the tweets from news sources about the abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagechrist 2,853 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 It's so sad. I've been his fan since forever, I've bought most of his records, and he was my biggest inspiration during my teenage years. I'm very happy that Evan has found the strength to say the name of his abuser and I really hope he pays for the harm he has caused to her and many other women. I'm so disappointed, I'm not supporting him ever again. feeling so hot tamale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 As a fan this is heartbreaking to hear, but unfortunately it doesn’t come as a total surprise. His relationship with Evan was always sketchy and just by reading the lyrics he wrote during that time you could tell it was troubling. Good for Evan for finally naming him, it really is an awful thing to read about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,930 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I’m a little surprised most of y’all never heard about it... makes me so uncomfortable when y’all praise him so much I’m glad she’s finally fully opened up about it, she is so strong and so beautiful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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