Economy 49,372 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Rio said: If you live and die for music, then you wouldn't quit, sorry. I think its very difficult for any artist these days especially the very successful ones to truly stay having music as a deep passion and reason for living etc The way theres so many business and economic interests, the way labels push certain things and sometimes overwork you as well... i think most ppl inevitably loose that passion after a few years of that to at least some degree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,103 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, Enigma said: Ma'am 4/5 of her insta posts are about a brand sponsorship of some sorts, a good chunk of that being Haus Labs... the attention to Chromatica is literally nonexistent... I can't imagine saying blatantly wrong things like that in the name of feeling morally superior. Don’t you ever get tired of being so bitter and full of negativity? Lol it sounds so exhausting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilboyblue 5,022 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I don't think EMV is actual revenue, though? If I understand correctly, it's a way to measure media mileage that is organic. So it's more of an indicator of how popular the brand is. Still, a great job. On its way to being a household name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophonic 7,015 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Beatboom said: Lol no. I'm just very happy for her and smug on her and Sarah's behalf. Absolutely nobody expects you to love this brand but the persistent way some have trashed it has been pathetic and so unnecessary. And your criticisms are pretty meaningless now anyway. Before we had no figures to go on. Now we do. Even if its not revenue, we know she is up there with long established brands and that's impressive by anyone's standards i don’t understand this hate against sarah at all. she is such a sweetheart. and if someone doesn’t like the make-ups... well it’s more gaga’s choice than sarah’s talent i think. i hope everyone calms down and let this woman do her job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,844 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Enigma said: Well I don't see why you guys think we owe good opinions to Gaga-related projects. That alone highlights the huge problem here. If something she does happen to be mediocre, we shouldn't expect the discussions about it to be all positive. This brand, to the outside non-biased makeup world, is mediocre. I don't get why it's so wild to you that the comments on here would reflect that? See it's the pot calling the kettle back here. My negative opinion on the brand does not affect your ability to like the brand. I'm free to post it, and you're free to aknowledge it or not. It doesn't stop positive discussions from happening in the same thread. I don't know where that notion that we should only discuss things we like come from, but it's weird. Go to any non-Gaga related thread on this website and you'll see people have both positive and negative opinions about things without fighting. Somehow you guys have decided that a negative opinion on a BRAND is negativity period. If you can't see how that's problematic, there's nothing I can tell you. To YOU it might be mediocre, to someone else it might be the best make up brand in the world. I’m sure numbers like these prove the fact that generally the brand is liked. Plus I am not even being biased, I’ve bought and used products myself and think they are great. You are entitled to your opinion of course, as is everyone. Of course I can choose to ignore it. But the hate here is overwhelming and you can’t blame a group of fans on a site dedicated to her to put up with it. Also are these negative opinions necessary if they don’t have any basis? Like I said what good are you adding here? You and 99% of people ‘criticizing’ the brand are just being annoying and vague about not liking it. What good does that add to the discussion? What do you want from the brand? What could make it better for you? Talk about THOSE things. Get a PowerPoint presentation, a college degree in cosmetics and a book of formulas and let’s have a nice discussion about what you would like to see from the brand. Stop moaning about it being bad simply for being bad and a cash grab. Also, at the end of the day we are on a site dedicated to Gaga. Of course the majority of the fans are in favor of what she does and hate seeing people complain about it. Just try to understand the perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEDRUG 10,568 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 no matter what y'all say, the brand hasn't had a 'great' reception. most people said the products are good quality but for a makeup brand for THE lady gaga, it's boring and uninspired, and i have to agree. considering her target demographic is hardly the same as it was in 2012 or even 2017, i wouldn't say that this is a huge success. the brand is decent, a few of my friends got it and the eyeliner is great, the liquid eyeshadow seems pretty good, but overall, it's forgettable and unremarkable. rihanna changed the game. gaga didn't. y'all who make out that some fans are just here to criticise or only here to hate, i loved everything gaga did in 2017, pretty much everything she did in 2016 and most of what she did before then, but over the past two years she HAS favoured quantity to quality with her work and does seem to favour profit over good reception. i guess when she released shallow, she really meant s h a l l o w. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,592 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, thehanyo said: Hope this puts her back on those Forbes lists. It was kinda embarrassing seeing her so low relative to her peers. those Forbes lists are either self reported or straight up guesses by Forbes if they aren't given the info. Likely Gaga just doesn't fill in the yearly questionnaire Nobody takes them seriously, don't worry about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: Don’t you ever get tired of being so bitter and full of negativity? Lol it sounds so exhausting I don't see the negativity in stating a fact. I wonder what it's like living in this delusional world where everything is perfect and any slightly negative opinion is prohibited. Sounds exhausting too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,103 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Enigma said: I don't see the negativity in stating a fact. I wonder what it's like living in this delusional world where everything is perfect and any slightly negative opinion is prohibited. Sounds exhausting too. Okay Debbie downer have fun being one of the most negative people here lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatboom 948 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Oh and for anyone who thinks these figures aren't real and nothing to do with revenue, we already know HL is profitable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 SHE CANT LOSE Obsessed HL haters are in SHAMBLES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyVersace 8,983 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 And y'all still question why she's become the advertising queen. Would you turn down $141mil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatboom 948 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, thehanyo said: Hope this puts her back on those Forbes lists. It was kinda embarrassing seeing her so low relative to her peers. (JLo, Ariana, Pink, Billie, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Beyonce, and Taylor are all above her) Its even more embarrassing that you think those lists are real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Beatboom said: She has kept the HL promo down to a bare minimum so idk why y'all act like she's so devoted to make up that she gave up music. Right? She did a few basic glamour photoshoots for Haus Labs and the rest was regular Instagram promo... that's it. That's not even 1% of what has been done for Chromatica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, LaLa said: those Forbes lists are either self reported or straight up guesses by Forbes if they aren't given the info. Likely Gaga just doesn't fill in the yearly questionnaire Nobody takes them seriously, don't worry about it 3 minutes ago, Beatboom said: Its even more embarrassing that you think those lists are real It's like neither of you have ever heard of Publicity or Public Relations. Do you guys really think Gaga got into beauty as a hobby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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