Katy Perry Forced Her Dog To Be Vegan On New Tweet

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Did everyone try the chicken? 

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19 minutes ago, dynamite said:

People do change, and that's fine, but people shouldn't push their changes on anyone else. Maybe it'll happen at a different time for some people, if at all. Either way is ok.

And it's implied in your posts otherwise what other reason is there for the judgemental comments?

I don't see the connection between being a drug addict and eating meat though.

Judgemental comments? I started out with the fact that I like that katy has switched to a vegan diet and I hope there will be more and more vegans in the world. I also wrote that I do not understand that people are worried about a dog that probably has great care and not worried about other animals. you call it judgmental? then I joined the discussion, because I was reading this nonsense about fascists, vegan lions and wolves and other attempts to debunk vegans. can't you see it

and again - point out where I force others to be vegan.

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9 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

Good thing then that I was never interested in a discussion

childish taunts point to something else, clowns

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On 1/17/2021 at 1:37 PM, xoxo Craig said:

...Dogs are not like us. They can't think like us, they can't communicate like us. It is extremely cruel to force a diet onto an animal that does not have the same free will that we have. Dogs and wolves are carnivores. No discussion about that. We humans have 'K9 teeth' for a reason. In the wild we hunted meat, and so did the wolves and the dogs...

Cows, pigs and chickens (and many other animals people consume) are also not like us. They don't think like us, but enough to cry and be scared when they know they're about to be slaughtered.

It's extremely cruel to force many of the same species into a crowded area and pump them full of antibiotics and food (forcing a diet onto these animals, complete with drugs too) to make them fat. Just like Katy's dog, these animals can't actually consent to this - so we should all stop eating these animals and Katy's dog can go fend for itself.

The vast majority of us living in the Western world no longer hunt for our meat in the wild, we just buy it wrapped in plastic. This incessant supply-and-demand is not really the same as what humans did to survive in the past.

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46 minutes ago, seba said:

childish taunts point to something else, clowns

you need a raid spray for that particular user. 

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1 hour ago, seba said:

childish taunts point to something else, clowns

And you were being incredibly patronizing towards @Miss Dolly. So don't complain about "childish taunts". 

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1 hour ago, jobot said:

Cows, pigs and chickens (and many other animals people consume) are also not like us. They don't think like us, but enough to cry and be scared when they know they're about to be slaughtered.

It's extremely cruel to force many of the same species into a crowded area and pump them full of antibiotics and food (forcing a diet onto these animals, complete with drugs too) to make them fat. Just like Katy's dog, these animals can't actually consent to this - so we should all stop eating these animals and Katy's dog can go fend for itself.

The vast majority of us living in the Western world no longer hunt for our meat in the wild, we just buy it wrapped in plastic. This incessant supply-and-demand is not really the same as what humans did to survive in the past.

This is an attack on one particular type of farming and what you're doing is lumping the whole farming and meat industry together and saying "that's bad" because you've been mislead by biased documentaries. Factory farming is indeed wrong and I think most people would agree that the Supermarket chains who own these facilities should be fined and shut down because the way they treat the animals is cruel and unethical. 

However, what vegans present is that it's either factory farmed meat or going vegan. And that's incredibly misleading. Organic, agricultural farming is much healthier for the animal, the environment, and the person who eats meat. Its not a secret that the animals have to die for us to eat them, but its always been like that. That's the food chain. Living creatures eat other living creatures - that's the way of the world. Cows, pigs, and other animals have always been eaten for food for centuries. Not everything is rosy and comfy in life, and that might be hard for some people to accept but that's just life. This concept can be applied to other carnivorous animals. One animal eats another animal, which then gets eaten by a bigger animal, and so on and so forth. Its like an ecosystem. Is it wrong that lions hunt antelope? No because that's the way they live. 

Just because we don't hunt our meat doesn't mean we shouldn't never have meat. Meat is an incredibly important thing to have in our diet and its why many vegans go back to eating meat. You can attack factory farms (I'm there with you), but people should be able to have that choice between eating meat or trying an alternative if they like. People should still be able to eat meat if thats what they want to do. 

There are huge flaws within the vegan diet, huge issues which contradict eachother. 

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1 hour ago, jobot said:

It's extremely cruel to force many of the same species into a crowded area and pump them full of antibiotics and food (forcing a diet onto these animals, complete with drugs too) to make them fat. Just like Katy's dog, these animals can't actually consent to this - so we should all stop eating these animals and Katy's dog can go fend for itself.

The vast majority of us living in the Western world no longer hunt for our meat in the wild, we just buy it wrapped in plastic. This incessant supply-and-demand is not really the same as what humans did to survive in the past.

I get it with regards to factory farming. Its not good etc etc, what's your thoughts for people who buy organic meat reared in a stress free environment? You just mentioned above that forcing a diet on a farm animal is bad. But Katy is forcing a vegan diet which is bad. Katys dog doesn't need to go fend for itself Katy can instead feed it what it deserves and wants which is meat/veg/wholegrains/bone marrow/oily fish. Do you have an issue with that if the meat is ethically sourced etc?

 

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26 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

And you were being incredibly patronizing towards @Miss Dolly. So don't complain about "childish taunts". 

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42 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

This is an attack on one particular type of farming and what you're doing is lumping the whole farming and meat industry together and saying "that's bad" because you've been mislead by biased documentaries. Factory farming is indeed wrong and I think most people would agree that the Supermarket chains who own these facilities should be fined and shut down because the way they treat the animals is cruel and unethical. 

However, what vegans present is that it's either factory farmed meat or going vegan. And that's incredibly misleading. Organic, agricultural farming is much healthier for the animal, the environment, and the person who eats meat. Its not a secret that the animals have to die for us to eat them, but its always been like that. That's the food chain. Living creatures eat other living creatures - that's the way of the world. Cows, pigs, and other animals have always been eaten for food for centuries. Not everything is rosy and comfy in life, and that might be hard for some people to accept but that's just life. This concept can be applied to other carnivorous animals. One animal eats another animal, which then gets eaten by a bigger animal, and so on and so forth. Its like an ecosystem. Is it wrong that lions hunt antelope? No because that's the way they live. 

Just because we don't hunt our meat doesn't mean we shouldn't never have meat. Meat is an incredibly important thing to have in our diet and its why many vegans go back to eating meat. You can attack factory farms (I'm there with you), but people should be able to have that choice between eating meat or trying an alternative if they like. People should still be able to eat meat if thats what they want to do. 

There are huge flaws within the vegan diet, huge issues which contradict eachother. 

I do agree that documentaries are biased, like all media is. I think there's also a lot of biased media that encourages to continue eating meat and reinforces that we are carnivores at heart. If you saw a pig or cow outside, would you lunge at it and begin to eat it? Maybe not... unlike the lion who indeed would attack and eat it. 

Yes, it would be great for the world to be free from factory farming and only use organic farming. Even though the end result is still the same for the livestock. Do you only eat organic, free range meat? 

To be successful eating vegan/plant-based, you've gotta put a bit of thought and research into it, make sure you're getting all the necessary nutrients - which is definitely possible without animal products.

And you're right, not everything is rosy and comfy in the world and it's hard for people to accept - kind of like how it seems hard for people to accept KP choosing what to feed her pet (I know the dog can't consent to this choice, but it also couldn't consent to being KP's pet in the first place). I doubt she is crafting the dog's meals by hand, she's probably buying a good brand which covers the nutrition. 

Luckily, people s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ do have the choice to eat whatever they want. With my initial quote I was intrigued by your words of how it's extremely cruel to force diets onto animals that don't have free will. And I thought, maybe it's extremely cruel to kill animals. And everyone has their own idea of right and wrong, so that's cool - it just seems like a bit of a contradiction. 

 

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1 hour ago, Rj Barker said:

I get it with regards to factory farming. Its not good etc etc, what's your thoughts for people who buy organic meat reared in a stress free environment? You just mentioned above that forcing a diet on a farm animal is bad. But Katy is forcing a vegan diet which is bad. Katys dog doesn't need to go fend for itself Katy can instead feed it what it deserves and wants which is meat/veg/wholegrains/bone marrow/oily fish. Do you have an issue with that if the meat is ethically sourced etc?

 

Hi, I think if people can afford it then it's a better choice, if you're going to eat meat. I wonder how much stress would come from the moment of death - I suppose it depends how the animal is killed.

I didn't say it was bad, just "extremely cruel" - I was mirroring the post I quoted to highlight the contradiction. There's a lot of talk in this thread about how the dog can't consent, but really, no animals consent to being killed for food (whether it's organic farming or factory farming). It's bemusing to see a lot of concern for the dog's wants and free will, when buying animal products isn't exactly promoting wants/free will of the said animals.

Truthfully, I'm not too fussed about KP's dog's diet, I'm sure she's got it under control. 

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15 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

The answer is in the comment you quoted.

Also vegan food has a billion different tastes so saying you never found even one good make me seriously doubt you test many vegan tastes...

I never said that i dont like vegan food i was qouting someone else

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On 1/19/2021 at 10:02 AM, Miss Dolly said:

A few members have said that in the future everyone will be vegan. If that doesn’t sound like facism I don’t know what else.

You either completely missunderstood them or you're okay with slandering folks who don't say what you want to hear lol.

They say it because they think most people will become vegan by ethical choice or by default because of the environnemental threat it creates. No "facism" here either since it's about the masses choice, nothing forced by others.

On 1/19/2021 at 10:02 AM, Miss Dolly said:

What I’m trying to say is let people eat what they want.

No what you're trying to say is "don't express your opinion that differs from mine" cause everybody already let others "eat what they want" in this thread and you know it.

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5 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

You either completely missunderstood them or you're okay with slandering folks who don't say what you want to hear lol.

They say it because they think most people will become vegan by ethical choice or by default because of the environnemental threat it creates. No "facism" here either since it's about the masses choice, nothing forced by others.

No what you're trying to say is "don't express your opinion that differs from mine" cause everybody already let others "eat what they want" in this thread and you know it.

Another one, if you read some of the post people have sent me they have said that they are wanting in the future everyone to be vegan and have no choice in which they eat, it needs to be all vegan which is facism, facism is forcing a ideology onto another. I have said various times if people want to be vegan let them, I don’t care what people do as long as you don’t force me.