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Dua : 'I've never seen being pretty or beautiful as some kind of power'


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4 minutes ago, Dulo Peep said:

so, in your own words, her talent put her ahead of the game?

Nah like "it" as in her beauty, theres nothing awfully wrong with that as she is a great artist, but the statement that her success has nothing to do with her beauty is a bit wrong

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I think she's trying to answer back to the interviewers quite frankly rude line of questioning that suggests that her looks were the only thing that got her to where she is. Even if that's true, that's not something you should say to someone's face. In today's music industry, being pretty alone doesn't get you anywhere. When I was growing up, there were a lot of pretty girls with no talent in the business (they didn't last long, however). But around 2010, that started to change. Maybe the introduction of the likes of Adele and Gaga, who focused on making good music as opposed to using their looks to sell it changed things. But it seemed like girls who were just pretty and nothing else stopped being successful like they used to. Getting a record deal based purely on your looks became a thing of the past. You had to have something else going on, even if it was as simple as writing your own songs, even if the songs weren't that good. You had to show some kind of musical talent. Notice how singers who have material written for them are practically non-existent now? Even ones who do have songs written for them are still writing a bit here and there. And it's rare to find an artist in today's music scene who'd I'd call straight up "untalented." The standard is so high to gain a recording contract these days. A pretty face alone doesn't cut it anymore. If you've observed the industry like I have, you'll see it.

8 hours ago, venusinmyhead said:

she represents beauty standards that are on the verge of becoming old-fashioned: she‘s white, able-bodied and owns body features that were the norm.

Not only do these traits show no sign of going out of fashion but are you suggesting that people with those features don't deserve to be considered attractive any longer? There's room for all types of people to be attractive and for people to have all different tastes. There's no need to make it into competition where only one look can be superior.

8 hours ago, bionic said:

It’s a sociological fact that physically attractive people have things easier in life.

I must be a big exception to that, then. I've been told for years how pretty I am and had this very idea drilled into my head for years. Started entering into adulthood waiting for all these apparently great opportunities to come my way that I was told would happen...and they never did. Getting accepted into and graduating university is my one big life's achievement and that obviously had nothing to do with looks. No permanent job even when I had everything going for me. And no romantic luck whatsoever. I'm 31 and all I've ever had is one kiss...from a platonic friend who I practically begged so I would have at least one milestone to finally tick. Contrary to all expectations, people do not approach me or are inclined to be nicer to me. And it's not really taken into account how pretty people, especially women, have long been assumed to be unapproachable, snooty, unintelligent, no sense of humour, vapid and generally unfriendly. All these things can make it difficult in many areas of life. And you'd be surprised how many people, even with our more advanced understanding of mental health these days, still can't understand that self-esteem is in no way connected to looks. Some of the prettiest people I've ever seen have absolutely no confidence and shockingly, don't even consider themselves attractive.

8 hours ago, Regina George said:

I myself am from Balkans where that name originated from and I find it really disrespectful to her culture and her language when people like Wendy Williams act like it’s hard to pronounce. Dua means love in Albanian and by mocking that name (Dula, Duo,...) people are mocking Albanian language and culture IMO. I see what you mean tho and yea I d think some people are doing it only because they think it’s cute.

What I've thought for the longest time. You can get away with saying that a name's hard to pronounce if it's a very long name or isn't pronounced how it looks in your language but Dua Lipa is one of the shortest names I've ever seen and isn't hard for an English speaker to say at all. At most, you could wonder if Lipa is prounced "lypa" or "lippa" but Lipa is still a completely plausible option and we do pronounce I's like E's. I agree that maybe some people don't realise how offensive it can sound when even the most basic forms of your language can't be understand and it's like people are making a mockery of your heritage. And like they're exaggerating how difficult it is to say for a sake of a joke.

5 hours ago, Bonkers said:

This lacks self awareness.  If you think white privilege is powerful, it's nothing compared to beautiful privilege.  

When you're beautiful, people are nicer.  People want to be around you, to give you things and opportunities.  People feel better about themselves when they have beautiful friends. 

I really wouldn't be too bold to make the claim that beauty privilege is bigger than white privilege...

And I think your sum-up of the beauty experience sounds highly exaggerated and just what people think being pretty gives you. And I'm living proof of that.

1 hour ago, noahwamp said:

I saw her at Bonnaroo when she had only put out her first album & (while I was the only one around me bopping) every comment from the straights around me were "who's is that, she's ****ing hot" "she's so damn sexy." Not saying Dua is wrong, its just funny...

I'm going to give you a realistic breakdown of how things work - straight men are nowhere near the biggest demographic buying female artists music. Females overwhelmingly buy female music. That's why its so ironic that labels have been sexualising female artists for decades because they're just sexualising them for...other straight females? A big difference between men and women is that women are more inclined to support someone famous if they're attractive whereas men will just admire the attractiveness of the celebrity but not actually waste their money supporting someone who's just a pretty face. We've seen how girls will buy singles, albums, concert tickets, merch, etc. of their biggest crush all because they're hot. Boys will just watch their music videos on mute and maybe, maybe, buy a poster of them (but due to free pictures being all over the internet, even that isn't lucrative these days). Males actually find it embarrassing and a dent to their integrity to support someone who they don't find talented. And trust me, as a woman, I don't understand this gender discrepancy either, but it's the truth the majority of the time. So, those men around you that day who were saying those things, trust me, neither of them went home and downloaded her music. And regardless of her looks, they would never have done it unless they genuinely liked it anyway.

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She's extremely hard working so that played the biggest part in her success, but her beauty definitely helped her to get where she is aswell.
Labels very rarely sign "ugly" pop stars, particularly now that appearance, personnality & youth seem to be more important for the GP than actual talent.

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9 hours ago, Oreo said:

It's always the conventionally pretty one who say things like that! :huntyga: anyways she served in that photoshoot. 

honestly i think good looking people may not realize how much easier their life is. it’s called “the bubble,” where they’re protected from the harsh realities of the world because of their beauty.

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Regina George
4 hours ago, Bonkers said:

I don't think the problem (if there is a problem) here is that she's beautiful, or that it helped her.

It's that's this statement from her is tone deaf and unaware.  

There's a movie called A Star is Born and there's a character that isn't able to get anywhere in the music industry because of her nose inspite of her incredible talent.  She overcomes when a big celebrity gives her an audience, but before that her looks were holding her back. 
 

Interviewer objectified her and basically said she is where she is because she’s pretty, she said she doesn’t think so and she never tried using her looks to get stuff. She didn’t deny that being pretty is useful, she literally just said she didn’t use her looks to get places, she worked hard. 

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3 hours ago, thatfoxyfeeling said:

Isn’t her family like really wealthy too? Like the gurl is talented, but money + looks helped her get signed to a label to begin with. 

Lmao they were not wealthy at all.

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1 hour ago, NickyPuppy said:

I think what happened with Dua is what Gaga always talked about... the record labels always wanted to give her (Gaga´s) songs to prettier girls (Dua) who couldn´t write their own songs and who couldn´t sing a well as Gaga...

Because people like people who are pretty - same happens to pop stars and actors/actresses... (not always, but a lot of times)

 

 

Dua is one of the other "prettier" girls. (or let´s say "prettier in a conventional way")

And yes, she is very pretty. But I still think Gaga is hotter, more interesting and has that "special" thing to her that I can´t explain... charisma? I dunno

 

(Don´t get me wrong; I like Dua and I like listening to most of her songs a lot, but she doesn´t have the talent that Gaga has... the diversity, the range etc. )

She writes her songs and she is an amazing talented singer. Not you calling her talentless pretty girl. 

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Mother of Puppies
3 minutes ago, Regina George said:

She writes her songs and she is an amazing talented singer. Not you calling her talentless pretty girl. 

well good for her. (and I didn´t call her that, you did.) I also didn´t say she has no talent; I only pointed out that she isn´t as talented as Gaga in my opinion.

oh and does she play instruments? How many? I´m just curious.

 

 

 

Oh and I see you´re a big fan (good for ya) but you´re gonna have to live with the fact that you´re in a GAGA forum and most of the people are more into Gaga than Dua.

THEY CALL ME LADY MOP
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Regina George
1 minute ago, NickyPuppy said:

well good for her. (and I didn´t call her that, you did.)

oh and does she play instruments? How many? I´m just curious.

You literally said Dua is the pretty girl and previously said that songs were going to pretty girls who can’t write or sing well.

Playing an instrument is not relevant rn. Singers don’t have to be skilled instrumentalists. Literally not relevant at all. 

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Regina George
26 minutes ago, Aussie said:

Lol what a load of rubbish from a woman that’s made a career out of her looks and body 

Where? Literally when did Dua Lipa sell body and face? What are y’all even talking about? 

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Mother of Puppies
Just now, Regina George said:

You literally said Dua is the pretty girl and previously said that songs were going to pretty girls who can’t write or sing well.

Playing an instrument is not relevant rn. Singers don’t have to be skilled instrumentalists. Literally not relevant at all. 

Well she is pretty. And I only repeated what "Gaga" has said in 5 foot 2 ...

 

You´re gonna have to live with the fact that people think Gaga is more talented in a Gaga forum. It will be the other way around if you´re in the Dua Lipa forum.

THEY CALL ME LADY MOP
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Mother of Puppies
4 minutes ago, Regina George said:

You literally said Dua is the pretty girl and previously said that songs were going to pretty girls who can’t write or sing well.

Playing an instrument is not relevant rn. Singers don’t have to be skilled instrumentalists. Literally not relevant at all. 

Playing an instrument is important if you´re in the music industry... that´s why Dua will always be a pop star but never a musician.

(you just pointed it out yourself) I´m not saying she is not talented; just not "as talented as" Gaga,  who is truly a musician.:huntyga:

 

 

THEY CALL ME LADY MOP
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MJHolland
4 hours ago, PopMusicForever said:

We know you’re a hater, so why bother :ohwell:

I literally stanned her until I realized her fans, like y'all, will do mental gymnastics to rationalize anything she says or does :air:

It's not cute and if that's how her fans act then she won't be around for long 

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4 hours ago, Bonkers said:



There's a movie called A Star is Born and there's a character that isn't able to get anywhere in the music industry because of her nose inspite of her incredible talent.  She overcomes when a big celebrity gives her an audience, but before that her looks were holding her back. 
 

you did not just made overused reference omg ...

Arrested Development Eye Roll GIF

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