Shawn mendes misgendered Sam smith on iheart jingle ball 2020

[Luke78619 23,579]

I’m sure it wasn’t a deliberate thing to do, it’s possible he doesn’t know about it. I wouldn’t ever found out if I didn’t visit this site. 

Comments like “do better” are kind of dumb because he’s not going to be keeping up with whether someone has come out as something, he’ll only find out if he makes the mistake and gets corrected 

[Jill 31,812]

2 minutes ago, Alvaro Moreno Ullrich said:

Maybe they should hang on their pronouns on somewhere visible next time

Everybody knows what Sam's pronouns are. Reported

[Blastertoyo 22,734]

6 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

This kind of misgendering just brings attention to the issue.  I don't know why you can't be a he or she non-binary person.  But here we are.

I wonder how Shawn would feel if he kept being called Shane 

same principle 

[LaLa 19,965]

oh wow, another messy Sam Smith thread  y'all can never keep it cute huh? 

[spector 1,919]

1 minute ago, Kimmo said:

I’m sure Mr dancer didn’t mean to do it on purpose, calm down people 

dancer in the dark with regard to identity, how ironic 

[BUtterfield 8 41,942]

Why is every Sam smith thread never not problematic like y’all realize it’s against the rules to misgender someone right? 

[littlepotter 76,841]

1 minute ago, Jill said:

Self righteous about what? Their own identity? If people have the right to be self-righteous about one thing, that's their identity.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this. Reported? Really?

I'm sorry but yall need to give society some time to adjust. Adults who have all their lives referred to people as he or she may sometimes slip up because it isn't something we're used to. It will hopefully become so in time with NB visibility and it's good to point it out like the last tweet respectfully did, but to attack people like this is exactly the word he used; self righteous.

[Jill 31,812]

Just now, Bonkers said:

No, self righteous waiting for someone to not be as woke as you think you are.  Honestly, it's like you LOVE this kind of accidental thing so you can show how woke you are.  It's really annoying.

What are you on about? Referring to people with their pronouns is a sign of wokeness now? (whatever that means) Women are women, men are men, non-binary are non-binary. If you don't know someone's pronouns, ask. They will not bite and no one will say anything if you got it wrong the first few times. But to refer to someone the wrong way when their pronouns were front page news a few months ago does NOT look good.

I can't with people justifying misgendering someone as if it was a matter of "wokeness". It's a matter of sympathy, civility, and understanding.

[Bonkers 30,921]

5 minutes ago, Blastertoyo said:

I wonder how Shawn would feel if he kept being called Shane 

same principle 

Not really.   The pronoun thing is relatively new, people are used to looking at someone and calling them he or she.  If he wants his being non binary to be referenced in his pronouns, cool, sure.  But it's not really a big deal if someone just doesn't know or forgets.  It's not like Shawn Medez is someone looking for trouble or wanting to demean someone for using by wrong pronoun.  

[Jill 31,812]

1 minute ago, littlepotter said:

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this. Reported? Really?

I'm sorry but yall need to give society some time to adjust. Adults who have all their lives referred to people as he or she may sometimes slip up because it isn't something we're used to. It will hopefully become so in time with NB visibility and it's good to point it out like the last tweet respectfully did, but to attack people like this is exactly the word he used; self righteous.

I didn't actually reported them, I just said I would so I just wrote reported on the comment lol People won't get mad at you when you misgender them or use wrong pronouns, however Sam's pronouns are known to the general public and they were big news. It's weird for him to do that, but if it was a mistep I could understand. He has to apologize tho because we don't know what this does to Sam.

[Bonkers 30,921]

2 minutes ago, Jill said:

What are you on about? Referring to people with their pronouns is a sign of wokeness now? (whatever that means) Women are women, men are men, non-binary are non-binary. If you don't know someone's pronouns, ask. They will not bite and no one will say anything if you got it wrong the first few times. But to refer to someone the wrong way when their pronouns were front page news a few months ago does NOT look good.

I can't with people justifying misgendering someone as if it was a matter of "wokeness". It's a matter of sympathy, civility, and understanding.

The wokeness part comes in where you report someone for not agree with you that there was some sort of major infringement here.  Or how you re-write history as if people are coming at non-binary people.  It's ridiculous.  And boring.

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Not everyone is aware of everyone’s pronouns.

[Lion Heart 15,041]

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[Jill 31,812]

Just now, Bonkers said:

The wokeness part comes in where you report someone for not agree with you that there was some sort of major infringement here.  Or how you re-write history as if people are coming at non-binary people.  It's ridiculous.  And boring.

Oh my god I didn't actually report you  I said I'd report anyone who said something shady about the pronoun thing so I wrote it as a nod to that.

[PEZ 6,665]

Just now, Bonkers said:

If he wants his being non binary to be referenced in his pronouns, cool, sure.

How are you gonna say 'cool, sure' after misgendering them three times in once sentence Can't tell if you're deliberately doing that or not. If it's a deliberate choice, then you're clearly not cool with it.