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I WILL defend what Gaga does; here’s why?

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I like Chromatica. I really like the songs, fun, upbeat.  Rain on Me deserves to be on her top hits list. If she did the songs for us instead of for her, then I apreciate that too. I read somewhere that there was supposed to be a coachella performance that got canceled due to covid-19. But the payout from that performance was supposed to fund other stuff for the era, meaning we probably got lots less because of covid-19. There are so many covid-19 pandemic issues right now in America. CDC saying no-one should go anywhere for Thanksgiving holiday. Families should not meet for holidays. Must be really rough having a career that relies heavily on people going out and being social. Even makeup is for social experiences, mostly.  

I think it is probably situational, if she is sad now, as she appeared to be in the recent haus labs images.  Covid-19 should be controlled by vaccines in the coming months. 

I do not rely on her to entertain me all the time. It would be totally wrong to say that she no longer entertains me, as some have written in that other thread. It really is such a downer to see people on an artist's fan site complaining about how they are not entertained by the artist. Like troll much? Nothing better to do than pick fights on a fan forum.

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You can't defend what she "does" when Gaga is precisely doing nothing :stalkga: gotcha there didn't I? :stalkga: Didn't see that 1 coming right hunty? :stalkga: 

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petararthur
1 hour ago, Runway said:

This is so insensitive to artists like Whitney Houston, Robin Williams, Amy Winehouse, Kurt Kobain, Gaga’s own friend Alexander McQueen; and a long etc... is that what you think they should have done? leave their careers and live in a private island? You think that would have made their problems go away ?  Depression haunts you no matter what you do or where you are

I don’t think its a great idea involving others. We all know how Whitney led her life, unfortunately. She was one of the greatest vocals but as a person she was something else.

Amy in all of the beauty of her fragile soul just couldn’t bare this world and the heartbreaks she had. 

All of them were self-destructive and I don’t believe Gaga is. 

And try reading my comment again, I specifically said ‘if this makes you depressed’ referring to her Gaga persona and the fame, than get away from it.

It’s what every specialist would advise, hell, even my grandma would

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petararthur
2 hours ago, LGMonster95 said:

This is a classic from this fanbase. Looking just for one side of the story and completely ignoring everything else. Gaga is happy overall with her life, most of the time she just wants to explain her struggles because she knows what an inspiration she can be for others and she wants to help via her experience, she just got a lot more courage and learned more stuff to tell her struggles in the past years. She's definitelly not depressed all the time like how some of you think, ofc she has her moments because It's completely understandable especially for an emotional person like her, It's not nice to have PTSD, to have fibromialgya, and fame problems like not being able to do some normal stuff without people recognizing you. She has acknowledged many times how lucky she is for the stuff that she has, she's definitelly not ungrateful or sad with the life that she has

Well maybe you need to change the fanbase. Maybe Swifties are more supportive of their queen and are less hardcore than us.

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brucee

I will 'defend' GAGA because

-It's only music, doesn't have to be game changing all the time, chill you art police.

-She's great anyway : the Lady is aware of how you make a song, and is versed in music theory and **** and can play so I bet she always has a point, whatever she does.

-Maybe it's just me who's not in the mood anymore ??? 

-Criticising is not stylish. Doesn't make you look smarter. 

-Life is too hard to be negative

-If you can do better do it for F's sake. 

-If you want "better music", you know where is your dad's Pink Floyd collection, and your mom's Gershwin ok you art police ? 

-If you ****ing wanna pass a judgment and think about what is served to you, it's great. Always think twice. But do it about subjects that matter. Lady Gaga is immensely rich anyway. She doesn't need lil managers. But the planet Earth is in danger so.... Priorities on where you put your energy. 

-And yes she's had her share AND WE ALL KNOW IT... 

-SO BE KIND

 

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i've written defend in brackets in '...' because it's not really about her. It's about you. 

Do you watch someone you love and all that is in your mind is judgment ? Like you're a parent and you're constantly judging your child's drawings because you would like him to be Michelangelo ???? And you end up living in negativity for both of you when there could be so much LOVE. For me it's totally what I think happens with the fanbase. 

But it's not our fault completely. Social Media and dumb kids culture is also to blame. Consumerism, Capitalism and Patriarchy blur the lines too. 

 

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dollardays

Gaga: I was in a deep depression and had suicidal thoughts everyday

*Still gives fans one of the best pop albums of recent years*

Fans: ShE's NoT dOiNg eNoUGh!!!!!1

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brucee

I'm not saying you don't have to have an opinion. I'm just saying that if you don't like something don't stay here. 

If you're a vegetarian, don't go to the grill restaurant and complain that you're green bean plate is a bit boring.... 

We can share information more than opinions. 

An opinion is something personal, that you'd better wait to be asked for. 

Do I need someone to discuss her rendition of Misunderstood on Brian's pancake ??? Not sure actually. I need myself to be not lazy. Not to discuss every artist on planet earth (coz that is easy)

 

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brucee

when you critics someone. You criticise yourself. All i said before : it's all about you. 

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SlaeUrAnus
18 hours ago, Borislshere said:

yeah, the same pathetic fanbase that's constantly buying her music, makeup, tour tickets, merchandise, anything we can but god forbid we don't like something she does and have an actual opinion. how pathetic of us :cyanlights:

Yes, yes and YES.

Fair enough I understand this post to an extent as there is actual hate from 'fans' on here, but lets be honest, most threads that are 'criticising' Gaga are threads that are actually respectful constructive criticism. 

In a world where you could he anything, be kind.
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brucee

Music industry's rhythm and prerequisites nowadays, might also play a big part in what we perceive as disappointment.. 

Before accessing to an artistic content was harder and so people where more carefree about it and simply happy. I know some artists have disappointed their fan base, even David Bowie disappointed his fanbase at a point, but things were still different. 

If you put things in perspective there is less room for complaining that much. Compare it to small acts like Men I trust or Hako Yamasaki : mostly just records. And it's so life changing for me. 

(sorry for posting a lot, but as time goes by i find more and more reasons to simply rejoice) 

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Runway
14 hours ago, petararthur said:

I don’t believe Gaga is. 

Why? Are you her psychiatrist? Is that why she has suicidal thoughts? Is that why she starved herself to look thin at the beginning of her career? Or why she made most of her early music while on cocaine? 
as a matter of fact she did want to leave music after ARTPOP but tony bennett made her stay because her talent is too great. And im glad she stayed

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petararthur
3 minutes ago, Runway said:

Why? Are you her psychiatrist? Is that why she has suicidal thoughts? Is that why she starved herself to look thin at the beginning of her career? Or why she made most of her early music while on cocaine? 
as a matter of fact she did want to leave music after ARTPOP but tony bennett made her stay because her talent is too great. And im glad she stayed

All those things that you mentioned are struggles and thoughts of so many people. Do you know how many of them in the industry are on coke? It's insane. How many people have thought about suicide? 

And here we go again. She wanted to diss music so many times. In 2009 she was doing coke, in 2013 she was smoking 20 joints, since 2015-6 she has been crying through interviews so many times about this and that, mental struggles, people touching her, asking for a photo etc. In 2020 she hates Lady Gaga, she hates her piano.

At the same time she is starring in blockbusters, she's doing endorsments, she's going to Vegas, performing at rallies for politicians. 

Something doesn't add up.

 

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Runway
10 minutes ago, petararthur said:

the same time she is starring in blockbusters, she's doing endorsments, she's going to Vegas, performing at rallies for politicians. 

Something doesn't add up.

This is what she loves to do. She loves to act, she loves to write music and perform. She hates the dehumanizing aspect that comes with it. Its not hard to understand

what doesnt add up is your lack of empathy. If she ever tries to harm herself it will be fame that did that to her and lack of compassion, but shes strong and she will not leave to an “island”  and abandon her art just because some idiots tell her to do so lmfao

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Suuus
7 minutes ago, petararthur said:

All those things that you mentioned are struggles and thoughts of so many people. Do you know how many of them in the industry are on coke? It's insane. How many people have thought about suicide? 

And here we go again. She wanted to diss music so many times. In 2009 she was doing coke, in 2013 she was smoking 20 joints, since 2015-6 she has been crying through interviews so many times about this and that, mental struggles, people touching her, asking for a photo etc. In 2020 she hates Lady Gaga, she hates her piano.

At the same time she is starring in blockbusters, she's doing endorsments, she's going to Vegas, performing at rallies for politicians. 

Something doesn't add 

Did you forget that gaga has ptsd and fibromyalgie 

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Cybertronica
26 minutes ago, Runway said:

Why? Are you her psychiatrist? Is that why she has suicidal thoughts? Is that why she starved herself to look thin at the beginning of her career? Or why she made most of her early music while on cocaine? 
as a matter of fact she did want to leave music after ARTPOP but tony bennett made her stay because her talent is too great. And im glad she stayed

Oh god. Just ignore them. Their posts are the most delusional BS I've seen on this site in years. 

Imagine thinking you know Gaga's personal details on her psychological issues :toofunny: It's literally scary at this point

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