Chromatican 4,046 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, KORG said: Its lovely you guys want a hard shift to the left, but that kind of disconnect with reality is why its not happening. Great argument! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, FATCAT said: But they're not fighting for that better world, they're fighting everyone trying to actually get to that better world. They don't want compromise, they want purity. It's why they continue to preach that the best thing politically is for their version of the perfect leftist party, but it won't help win elections in Georgia. It won't help win elections in Pennsylvania. It won't help win elections in Florida. It won't help win elections in Texas. It only works in safe democratic seats. I think its hilarious that you think incrementalism is fighting for a better world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Also, you moderates need to go out and get your boy. Y'know since this is the kind of people y'all want to cater to and tell progressives to sit down and shut up. Hope y'all are ready to lose the runoffs and have a republican senate. but it won't be because of progressives. It's going to be because practical idealism from the moderates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmaky 917 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just the fact the extreme lefties are attacking other lefties in this forum shows you the 'my way or the highway' attitude. We are the same side, we just think that a more inclusive tactic would lead to the greater good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Glojuice said: Just the fact the extreme lefties are attacking other lefties in this forum shows you the 'my way or the highway' attitude. We are the same side, we just think that a more inclusive tactic would lead to the greater good. Exactly. You dont get to have the whole pie, you get a slice of it. Equality does NOT mean you get to steamroll people. It is about compromise, being considerate and working together for the good of everyone. Being an extreme lefty or an extreme righty just brushes people up the wrong way because you have tunnel vision and youre blind to the fact that you have to nurture the processes, you cannot bulldoze your way to the end goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulixtla 2,170 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Glojuice said: Just the fact the extreme lefties are attacking other lefties in this forum shows you the 'my way or the highway' attitude. We are the same side, we just think that a more inclusive tactic would lead to the greater good. As an aside, to think about something more pleasant, every time I see a post from you, that song “Shipwreck” you made and submitted to GGD7 goes through my head. That is a really nicely well done song and an enjoyable earworm. We had a really good turnout this year, with very consistent high quality. My music: https://caulixtla.com/music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, KORG said: Exactly. You dont get to have the whole pie, you get a slice of it. Equality does NOT mean you get to steamroll people. It is about compromise, being considerate and working together for the good of everyone. Being an extreme lefty or an extreme righty just brushes people up the wrong way because you have tunnel vision and youre blind to the fact that you have to nurture the processes, you cannot bulldoze your way to the end goal. both extreme sides end up turning viewpoints into a psuedo-religious dogma and want to punish the "sinners". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Glojuice said: Just the fact the extreme lefties are attacking other lefties in this forum shows you the 'my way or the highway' attitude. We are the same side, we just think that a more inclusive tactic would lead to the greater good. As an "extreme" leftist, I would have to say that we are not on the same side, number one. And number two, most people on here arent lefties. Most people that the extreme lefties argue with are actually centrists or center left/right. And thats the point. Progressives have to hammer the centrists first and the right wingers second. Fact is if lefties always align with the centrists for the sake of incrementalism, we will always only have incrementalism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatican 4,046 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, giskardsb said: both extreme sides end up turning viewpoints into a psuedo-religious dogma and want to punish the "sinners". One side wants a fascist ethnostate and the other side wants medicare for all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, HorusRa2 said: As an "extreme" leftist, I would have to say that we are not on the same side, number one. And number two, most people on here arent lefties. Most people that the extreme lefties argue with are actually centrists or center left/right. And thats the point. Progressives have to hammer the centrists first and the right wingers second. Fact is if lefties always align with the centrists for the sake of incrementalism, we will always only have incrementalism. Dude you have got to chill with the revolution LARPing. You sound like you've had too much of the coolaid. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmaky 917 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 hours ago, HorusRa2 said: As an "extreme" leftist, I would have to say that we are not on the same side, number one. And number two, most people on here arent lefties. Most people that the extreme lefties argue with are actually centrists or center left/right. And thats the point. Progressives have to hammer the centrists first and the right wingers second. Fact is if lefties always align with the centrists for the sake of incrementalism, we will always only have incrementalism. I think you just proved my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmaky 917 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 hours ago, caulixtla said: As an aside, to think about something more pleasant, every time I see a post from you, that song “Shipwreck” you made and submitted to GGD7 goes through my head. That is a really nicely well done song and an enjoyable earworm. We had a really good turnout this year, with very consistent high quality. Haha that's awesome. Appreciate the feedback and I have a quite a few earworms ready to be revealed 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Clearly, some of y'all need to COPE. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChvVolk 2,508 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Lion Heart said: Clearly, some of y'all need to COPE. Off topic but is this Sword & Shield music? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORG 4,756 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, HorusRa2 said: Dude. I dont care what you think about my political views. Thanks for the input but its unnecessary. Then dont post about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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