Official Discussion Thread: U.S Presidential Election 2020

[Chlorine 47,976]

8 minutes ago, OG Gaga Stan said:

1. No, I didn’t want Trump to win.

2. No, I won’t shut up. 

Jesus Christ... 

Jesus Christ didn't win this election, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did.

You're welcome. 

[Snorlax 6,366]

I was just in West Hollywood and I haven't seen so many people celebrating and this happy in a long time 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

14 minutes ago, Jill said:

Yeah people will react with sad reactions and will be shady to you, but to create this dialogue we shouldn't give up that easily. Just keep on insisting because that's how you create the neutral "arena" needed for a progressive and civilized debate.

I know people are upset about Biden over Bernie but Biden won because of the black vote and the black vote is not hard left it's left moderate. That's how he won the primaries and the national election. We won on a moderate ticket. Those are facts. But now is the time to keep advocating for more progrssives solution within the Democratic party. It's not the time to attack them. People are literally dancing in the streets. Get off your high horse and dance for a while. 

[Gagz4Gaga 7,278]

 

Trump personally getting his Mcdonald’s delivery tonight. No WH staff wanted to do it anymore. 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

3 minutes ago, Gagz4Gaga said:

 

Trump personally getting his Mcdonald’s delivery tonight. No WH staff wanted to do it anymore. 

The way I thought this was real until I saw his hand. 

[Jill 31,812]

4 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I know people are upset about Biden over Bernie but Biden won because of the black vote and the black vote is not hard left it's left moderate. That's how he won the primaries and the national election. We one on a moderate ticket. Those are facts. But now is the time to keep advocating for more progrssive solution within the Democratic party. It's not the time to attack them. People are literally dancing in the streets. Get off your high horse and dance for a while. 

I'm sorry? I've been celebrating since election night, and I try and have a nice discussion with you, I'm not in any high horse, what are you talking about? I'm talking about shifting the Dems' base further to the left, which means PoC, although they're now left moderate, can be shifted further left through dialogue and grassroots campaigns, which will in turn also influence the party's platform. I'm not against Biden by any means, I'm just offering a plan to create a context for dialogue.

[Chlorine 47,976]

4 minutes ago, Gagz4Gaga said:

 

Trump personally getting his Mcdonald’s delivery tonight. No WH staff wanted to do it anymore. 

Honestly he's looking kind of svelte? Maybe the stress of losing has curbed his appetite. And it's so nice to see her embracing her natural skin color. PASTY IS BEAUTIFUL TOO. I hope Donny realizes he doesn't need the orange foundation to feel pretty. 

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

Just now, PussPuss said:

Honestly he's looking kind of svelte? Maybe the stress of losing has curbed his appetite. And it's so nice to see her embracing her natural skin color. PASTY IS BEAUTIFUL TOO. I hope Donny realizes he doesn't need the orange foundation to feel pretty. 

Inb4:

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https://www.pscp.tv/w/cnXuNjFyYWpaRHlvYk16UXp8MWRqR1hvV05BZGpLWv6cWHEGOJheAzdZBtKqqTUdZbvmjmjaVughYYddQeR2?s=09

 

Biden and Kamala address the nation after winning US Election

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Just now, Jill said:

I'm sorry? I've been celebrating since election night, and I try and have a nice discussion with you, I'm not in any high horse, what are you talking about? I'm talking about shifting the Dems' base further to the left, which means PoC, although they're now left moderate, can be shifted further left through dialogue and grassroots campaigns, which will in turn also influence the party's platform. I'm not against Biden by any means, I'm just offering a plan to create a context for dialogue.

I wasn't taking about you. I don't think you are on a high horse. I don't think you've been angry once in this entire thread. 

[Luc 4,776]

IMO, 'healing the country' and 'unifying the country' do not and cannot go hand in hand with a complete depolarization of society. Unity is extremely rare (9/11 comes to mind) and never lasts long. I'm saying this as someone who has supported Biden and tried to convince leftists to support Biden since South Carolina by the way. If polarization is inevitable (politics is politics, there's no way around it), what should happen is that America should get polarized along different lines, lines that are less dangerous. Racial polarization is dangerous, as is polarization around other unchangeable, deep aspects of one's identity. Economic polarization isn't dangerous, and takes the heat off of minorities by switching the conversation to something completely different. Besides, economic polarization is by far the most fruitful electorally for Democrats and by far the most productive policy-wise for Democrats. I also personally believe that economic polarization takes the heat off of minorities in society. Try to pass a very moderate tax hike on billionaires' wealth as first act in congress of his presidency, and let Republicans take the heat for refusing to support it when all eyes are still on them. Let them defend it, and let poorer Trumpsters be disappointed that these are the guys they voted in. I know this isn't going to happen, but progressives who voted for Biden are entitled to ask him to pursue the programme he was elected with. The US won't ever change if Democrats don't fight tooth and nail like Republicans do to get what they want, even when there's a Senate majority against them.

[Jill 31,812]

1 minute ago, PussPuss said:

Honestly he's looking kind of svelte? Maybe the stress of losing has curbed his appetite. And it's so nice to see her embracing her natural skin color. PASTY IS BEAUTIFUL TOO. I hope Donny realizes he doesn't need the orange foundation to feel pretty. 

I nonironically hope he someday realizes he doesn't need all those foundations and wigs to look pretty, even if this happens on the day before he dies, half a day of true happiness is a hundred times better than not experiencing happiness ever.

[Jill 31,812]

3 minutes ago, Luc said:

IMO, 'healing the country' and 'unifying the country' do not and cannot go hand in hand with a complete depolarization of society. Unity is extremely rare (9/11 comes to mind) and never lasts long. I'm saying this as someone who has supported Biden and tried to convince leftists to support Biden since South Carolina by the way. If polarization is inevitable (politics is politics, there's no way around it), what should happen is that America should get polarized along different lines, lines that are less dangerous. Racial polarization is dangerous, as is polarization around other unchangeable, deep aspects of one's identity. Economic polarization isn't dangerous, and takes the heat off of minorities by switching the conversation to something completely different. Besides, economic polarization is by far the most fruitful electorally for Democrats and by far the most productive policy-wise for Democrats. I also personally believe that economic polarization takes the heat off of minorities in society. Try to pass a very moderate tax hike on billionaires' wealth as first act in congress of his presidency, and let Republicans take the heat for refusing to support it when all eyes are still on them. Let them defend it, and let poorer Trumpsters be disappointed that these are the guys they voted in. I know this isn't going to happen, but progressives who voted for Biden are entitled to ask him to pursue his own economic programme. The US won't ever change if Democrats don't fight tooth and nail like Republicans do to get what they want, even when there's a Senate majority against them.

The best division is class division (edit: with class consciousness I mean). We should strive for that, step by step.

[bionic 50,111]

Kamala's just starting

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