Billie Eillish having to defend herself against body shamers...

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honestly is 20 fkn 20 (2020) and noone should give a fk or even have a "opinion" on someone elses body unless you are their own personal trainer or family doctor. Shame on the media outlets that post that pic wanting to get a " reaction " and shame on the people that "reacted" to something that is clearly none of their business. 

 

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Just stop.

If you're not someone's doctor or someone close to them who cares about their health, it's none of your business how much someone weighs. (And even if you are close to someone, it's probably not your business either, but at least you care about them and aren't just just stranger passing judgment.) 

Skinny does not necessarily equal healthy. Fat does not necessarily equal unhealthy. Billie Eilish is not overweight, but even if she were, it's not our business. 

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

Just now, KanyeWest said:

Your post insinuated that Billie is overweight, maybe u haven't seen many women in your life but Billie has a very standard normal body, with a bigger chest which doesn't mean you are overweight at all.

You're very off topic unless u think people calling Billie a "mid 30s wine mom body" is normal and should be done so that Billie loses weight and is deemed "healthy" in your eyes 

She has gained a few. Its nothing to do with her breasts . I've been surrounded by women my entire life, with being involved in sports and also education. The 'standard' has become warped because if you are saying Billie is the standard, then its no wonder there is a problem. Billie isn't fat, but she does look like she's gained weight. She is slightly overweight. 

I'm not off topic because I spoke about fatshaming. No, I don't think calling her that is appropriate... but we should be able to identify that Billie has gained weight. I never said I agreed with putting things negatively like that, so maybe you misunderstood and just trying to make a point. 

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2 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

I don’t agree with body shaming, but I do think we've become too soft about talking about weight. When I saw that picture, I didn't actually recognise her and it took me a minute to realise it was her. Its not healthy to be overweight and we should be able to talk about weight more freely without putting someone down negatively. 

Do you know what it’s like to be an overweight person and feel like all people see is your weight? That they don’t even see you as a person but just a fat person. And if you’re overweight you got that way because you’re lazy and eat crap all the time right? Overweight people don’t need you to point out they’re overweight. They already know and probably think about it more than you do. 
 

Im going to have to step away from this site today. The last thread that weight was being discussed lead me to tears because of how judgmental people were. I refuse to go through that again. 

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

1 minute ago, SamanthaC said:

Do you know what it’s like to be an overweight person and feel like all people see is your weight? That they don’t even see you as a person but just a fat person. And if you’re overweight you got that way because you’re lazy and eat crap all the time right? Overweight people don’t need you to point out they’re overweight. They already know and probably think about it more than you do. 
 

Im going to have to step away from this site today. The last thread that weight was being discussed lead me to tears because of how judgmental people were. I refuse to go through that again. 

Well I don't see a fat person as just a fat person, of course they are a person too. Thats why I don't agree with fatshaming or the comments that were made against her. 

I'm so sorry you've felt like that in the past, or if my comments have triggered something. You don't deserve to feel like that at all

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I'm gonna bookmark this thread for next time people talk **** about male bodies. Yall know who you are!

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2 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

She has gained a few. Its nothing to do with her breasts . I've been surrounded by women my entire life, with being involved in sports and also education.

Have you ever been to the beach?  Have you noticed women in bikinis and their bodies, maybe next summer do that as an exercise. What you will see is celullite on thighs, tummies, saggy breasts for some or flat chests for others, you will see long skinny legs with very thin arms and sharp bones and you will wider hips with flat derrieres and cellulite going from legs to derriere to arms to stretch marks in the stomach. That's normal bodies, the typical normal woman body is not what you see on TV so idk how you think Billie's body is overweight.

Is this overweight to you? Unhealthy? Should be told they need to watch out for their health because they are starting to go down a very dark road?

Are you gonna come up to a more mature woman and tell her, you've gained some pounds, you need to worry about your health it's not right

You obviously don't know what is normal or abnormal, nobody can be the perfect body mass, the majority of human beings in this world will be slightly a tiny bit over the perfect "index". Women have to have some fat in their tummy, it is natural, the women you see with flat stomachs they have to train in a different way than the ordinary person because to get rid of that fat is very technical and difficult. Many supermodels actually lose their period after training very hard and losing a lot of weight, but then again some people are born with a slimmer figure which people still body shame and make them feel like they are unhealthy. If you want to know if someone is unhealthy they have to get some blood work done, they gotta go see a doctor, the Kate Moss people saw in the 90s snorted cocaine, yet she was the perfect body mass index wasn't she!? You woldn't have said anything.... Yes, if you are obese, it's a health risk, but do you know what obese look like? And do you think shaming people for their bodies is the right way for them to change? If you worried about their health, shouldn't it be a family member or a very personal friend that ask them about it? Don't you think that health is personal? Do you think that you can see if someone is healthy just by looking at them?

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14 minutes ago, SamanthaC said:

Do you know what it’s like to be an overweight person and feel like all people see is your weight? That they don’t even see you as a person but just a fat person. And if you’re overweight you got that way because you’re lazy and eat crap all the time right? Overweight people don’t need you to point out they’re overweight. They already know and probably think about it more than you do. 
 

Im going to have to step away from this site today. The last thread that weight was being discussed lead me to tears because of how judgmental people were. I refuse to go through that again. 

Thanks a lot for your sincerity It's seriously what Gaga says: until it happens to you, you don't know how it feels. This goes much beyond and further than a pic of celebrity from a bad angle. I'm here for you, darling!

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

Just now, KanyeWest said:

Have you ever been to the beach?  Have you noticed women in bikinis and their bodies, maybe next summer do that as an exercise. What you will see is celullite on thighs, tummies, saggy breasts for some or flat chests for others, you will see long skinny legs with very thin arms and sharp bones and you will wider hips with flat derrieres and cellulite going from legs to derriere to arms to stretch marks in the stomach. That's normal bodies, the typical normal woman body is not what you see on TV so idk how you think Billie's body is overweight.

Is this overweight to you? Unhealthy? Should be told they need to watch out for their health because they are starting to go down a very dark road?

Are you gonna come up to a more mature woman and tell her, you've gained some pounds, you need to worry about your health it's not right

You obviously don't know what is normal or abnormal, nobody can be the perfect body mass, the majority of human beings in this world will be slightly a tiny bit over the perfect "index". Women have to have some fat in their tummy, it is natural, the women you see with flat stomachs they have to train in a different way than the ordinary person because to get rid of that fat is very technical and difficult. Many supermodels actually lose their period after training very hard and losing a lot of weight, but then again some people are born with a slimmer figure which people still body shame and make them feel like they are unhealthy. If you want to know if someone is unhealthy they have to get some blood work done, they gotta go see a doctor, the Kate Moss people saw in the 90s snorted cocaine, yet she was the perfect body mass index wasn't she!? You woldn't have said anything.... Yes, if you are obese, it's a health risk, but do you know what obese look like? And do you think shaming people for their bodies is the right way for them to change? If you worried about their health, shouldn't it be a family member or a very personal friend that ask them about it? Don't you think that health is personal? Do you think that you can see if someone is healthy just by looking at them?

Have you ever been swimming? Have you ever went on a vacation? Do you venture outside? 

 

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Just now, xoxo Craig said:

Have you ever been swimming? Have you ever went on a vacation? Do you venture outside?

Yeah well I ask because it seems you can't see properly, you like to think that this world is black or white that there's no nuance 

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2 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

Yeah well I ask because it seems you can't see properly, you like to think that this world is black or white that there's no nuance 

Same to you. Have a good day

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Just now, xoxo Craig said:

Same to you. Have a good day

LOL you can't argue with me cus u don't got the answers, so you leave. Bye bye!!!!!!!

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Just now, KanyeWest said:

LOL you can't argue with me cus u don't got the answers, so you leave. Bye bye!!!!!!!

Make some points that are actually valid first. But all you've spouted is nonsense, trying to claim I'm blind etc etc... 

So I'm done here

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1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said:

Make some points that are actually valid first. But all you've spouted is nonsense, trying to claim I'm blind etc etc... 

So I'm done here

You claimed Billie is overweight and u didn't prove how, you said it's not because of her chest. You also said she is not the standard body. Then I tell you you can't tell people's healthy by their weight because sometimes they don't correlate, I also tell you that all women have fat in their tummy and have cellulite in their thighs, that you can notice it if you to go to the beach and have an idea of what a normal female body looks like. Your response is to be passive aggressive and leave. That's on you. Bye bye now good riddance, talking to you is like talking to a wall

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16 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

I've been surrounded by women my entire life, with being involved in sports and also education. The 'standard' has become warped because if you are saying Billie is the standard, then its no wonder there is a problem. Billie isn't fat, but she does look like she's gained weight. She is slightly overweight. 

You have to be surrounded by women with different body type. Billie is the standard.