US to ban TikTok downloads on Sep. 20

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

53 minutes ago, Scri said:

Not to defend Trump (I would never), but Chinese apps have tones of issues, both ethical and political. If you see only the surface, yeah tiktok is a social media for challenges, but actually is a growing algorithm of the biggest dictatorship on Earth.

I beg you to read some well-written scientific paper on this, or even a proper article.

While I 100% agree, are Facebook, Twitter etc next or not? They hold A LOT of ethical and political issues as well (misinformation, a hotspot for alt groups, privacy concerns etc.). Facebook especially.

Instead of outright banning apps/technology companies, I think more work should be done in regulating them. My fear of banning social media apps (regardless of country of origin), is that it sets a precedent that strongly remind me of authoritarian regimes in my region--the Middle East.

I'm lucky enough to live in the UAE where things are stable, but Iran for example banned WhatsApp when it was used for protests to communicate and gather. Twitter was crucial in the Arab Spring demonstrations in Egypt etc. Even Wikipedia was banned in Turkey for a while as "propaganda."

When the president of a country like the US--the "leader of the Free World"--does something like this, it signals for leaders in other countries that they could do the same if they wish with little repercussion. I don't find it surprising nor coincidental that Donald Trump being elected president was also followed by authoritarian regimes rising/gaining popularity.

I think people really underestimate how much influence the US and its leadership have on the world, be it political or social influence.

The US needs to promote the concept of the free market of ideas, especially when it comes to social media platforms and the internet overall. Going back to Iran, and I'm pretty sure when protests rose they went as far as shutting down the internet. I highly doubt America would do such a thing, but we should always be cautious. Democracy and liberty don't just turn authoritarian overnight. It's a slow process but it can and has happened.

 

[littlepotter 76,610]

1 hour ago, Joshie S said:

I hope countries WW follow this and also ban it.

I'm not for Donald Trump or support anything he is about, however I feel that TikTok needs to be taken down, for many reasons.

Can you begin providing the reasons?

[littlepotter 76,610]

10 minutes ago, ItWasntLaauv said:

Noooooo, didn’t the US operations for the app get bought by a US company the other day? WTF, this is bigger than TikTok getting banned, this is censoring by the government. The fact that TikTok is getting banned, but Facebook is still up and running really bothers me.

I truly am speechless over the amount of people so happy with censorship

[alsemanche 97,796]

1 hour ago, ItWasntLaauv said:

Noooooo, didn’t the US operations for the app get bought by a US company the other day? WTF, this is bigger than TikTok getting banned, this is censoring by the government. The fact that TikTok is getting banned, but Facebook is still up and running really bothers me.

Nope negotiations aren't done yet. Oracle is offering deals if i'm not mistaken, but nothing has been finalized yet. 

And yes very that, if you're gonna ban tiktok for security reasons, ban FB as well as like 90% of social media apps lmao. But I guess state censorship is fine when it's an app that people are bothered by for literally no reason other than they think it's stupid (as if snapchat,IG, twitter, etc. are the epitome of intellectual expression you know) 

[ItWasntLaauv 6,392]

7 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

I truly am speechless over the amount of people so happy with censorship

It’s really disappointing, I expected more logic from this site. Full shade.

[lavenderblondee 3,695]

1 hour ago, Scri said:

Not to defend Trump (I would never), but Chinese apps have tones of issues, both ethical and political. If you see only the surface, yeah tiktok is a social media for challenges, but actually is a growing algorithm of the biggest dictatorship on Earth.

I beg you to read some well-written scientific paper on this, or even a proper article.

This is what I love GGD. I was about to drag Trump for doing this absurd thing during a pandemic, but it seems like ultimately it was for good reason. Whether he actually cares about that/did it for the good reason is another story, I'm glad it was banned.

I've never been on Tik-Tok...vine or die 

[BABYL0N 3,192]

There goes the 911 promo move  Bobby we need a new strategy

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 hour ago, BadGurlMadge said:

Yeah, but like TikTok has freedom of speech and as far as i have seen, i haven’t found any “dictatorship” videos there 

TikTok banned "Black lives matter" and "BLM" hashtags and suppressed a bunch of videos on that subject 

They have a few scandals like that tbh 

Still kinda sad it's actually being banned lol what am I going to do to waste my time 

[RAMROD 116,996]

4 minutes ago, MonsterPaws said:

 

I think people really underestimate how much influence the US and its leadership have on the world, be it political or social influence.

 

The last I read, y'all been repeating that "USA is not the centre of this world" or something along that line in this cult site like a broken records, so which one is the truth? Were those just pressed Europeans or what? 

 

By the way, don't be overdramatic. USA will not be Middle East, we have first amandement here that protects free speech, literally no other apps been banned besides Chinese products that are deemed problematic. 

Also, Chinese spying is unlike Western world spying. Just keep in mind they are major allies to Russia and North Korea, USA need to protect their security and it is their preogative, especially when a lot of experts predicts that, shall it happened, the next world war will starts as cyber war first before shooting war.

Besides, USA is not the first country that banned Chinese apps, India already did it beforehand. But it certainly wouldn't be the last, cos Chinese apps is that dodgy, mates. Take a look around. Even Japan now considering for the same action, and they are usually cool with all techie stuffs.

[Zedd 6,487]

USA sang "my biggest enemy is TikTok, pop a 911"

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Just now, MJHolland said:

TikTok banned "Black lives matter" and "BLM" hashtags and suppressed a bunch of videos on that subject 

Excuse me, that must be local then? For me it’s still showing up..... if it’s in the US then I’m not surprised 

[pedrohemg 7,802]

I hate that type of content. And now Instagram brought it to their app too. I'm being forced to use an older version of Instagram to get rid of those cringe Reels videos.

[alsemanche 97,796]

1 hour ago, RAMROD said:

USA will not be Middle East

No but it sure will bomb us to oblivion and call it heroism 

the US shouldn't be the center of the world but it has no problem meddling with politics everywhere and ruining regions for their own benefit. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

2 minutes ago, BadGurlMadge said:

Excuse me, that must be local then? For me it’s still showing up..... if it’s in the US then I’m not surprised 

They did it over the summer when things got bad in the US/World. BLM was banned on all For You pages globally for a while before they got called out. 

They've also been accused of suppressing plus-size and creators of color, on top of all the spying. 

An American company is still trying to buy TikTok so idk why the ban would go through this week.

Hopefully young people are pissed a turn out to vote for Biden lmao 

[RAMROD 116,996]

5 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

No but it sure will bomb us to oblivion and call it heroism 

the US shouldn't be the center of the world but it has no problem meddling with politics everywhere and ruining regions for their own benefit.

 

Really add to conversation, thanks.