Doot 2 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, thehanyo said: "I know her fans think I hate her because I'm a Madonna fan, but I just think she's talented and put out two of the best pop records ever with BTW and TFM, so I expect more of her." To be fair many of her fans think the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetal Halcyon 1,771 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I love this. She says what bugs her the most about Folklore and Joanne, and some music in general, is that these artists feel the need to use an acoustic guitar in order to be seen as “sincere.” I have a lot of friends who won’t listen to dance/pop music, because they don’t view it as “good/hearty/quality” music. They only listen to alt/acoustic music and think they’re better because of it, which really bugs me. I’m happy someone finally put this in words for me. Chromatica Forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I honestly think comparisons this year between Gaga and Katy make sense. They started around the same time and were always competing for the top spot, but now you can look back and compare careers to see how they stack up now. See where Katy went wrong compared to where Gaga went right to still get a number 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Doot said: To be fair many of her fans think the same thing. She says Smile is more successful than Chromatica. Literally no one thinks that. And she trashes Joanne the track without ever mentioning that Gaga won a ****ing Grammy for it! She also never mentions her Oscar! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagafanobvi 94 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Brecht said: It’s the number one album in the US right now so everyone? isnt cardigan lower than shallow on spotify rn? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,790 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, FentyGa said: folklore is taylor’s best album and one of the best released this year, but not everyone’s ready for that convo I disagree, but that's the problem with music critics - taste in music is such a personal experience that I don't understand why it's accepted for music critics to judge different albums for different reasons. For example, as a pop album I didn't enjoy folklore much. It's the club nonstop megamix version of an acoustic country album. The tempo and sound is almost the same throughout the entire thing. However, lyrically it is excellent and the stories Taylor tells through the songs are amazing. Her vocals are wonderful as usual too. Thematically Taylor did an amazing job. But that doesn't mean I'm going to have it on rotation in my car. So how can an album like that be compared to Gaga and Katy's which were designed for bopping and dancing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said: I disagree, but that's the problem with music critics - taste in music is such a personal experience that I don't understand why it's accepted for music critics to judge different albums for different reasons. For example, as a pop album I didn't enjoy folklore much. It's the club nonstop megamix version of an acoustic country album. The tempo and sound is almost the same throughout the entire thing. However, lyrically it is excellent and the stories Taylor tells through the songs are amazing. Her vocals are wonderful as usual too. Thematically Taylor did an amazing job. But that doesn't mean I'm going to have it on rotation in my car. So how can an album like that be compared to Gaga and Katy's which were designed for bopping and dancing? there’s personal opinion, and then there’s objective fact. both can be applied to music. you may not enjoy folklore, but it’s objectively a great album. poetic lyrics, running themes, it’s cohesive, well-done production, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Here's the host that trashes her the whole time: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGAXABO 390 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, MJHolland said: I’m sorry but who is still listening to folklore Not me.... Monster in Scotland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,790 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, thehanyo said: These NYT critics have a horrible issue with Gaga. Like... it's insulting to put Gaga alongside Katy Perry in 2020. They're not even on the same level. Also, the host talks about her with disdain. She says, "I know her fans think I hate her because I'm a Madonna fan, but I just think she's talented and put out two of the best pop records ever with BTW and TFM, so I expect more of her." God, it really, really pains them to EVER compliment her. I think I'm gonna cancel my subscription. I wonder if there's bad blood left over from 2013 when Gaga tweeted Jon Carmonica for his negative ARTPOP review and told Monsters to ignore him. 1 hour ago, FentyGa said: there’s personal opinion, and then there’s objective fact. both can be applied to music. you may not enjoy folklore, but it’s objectively a great album. poetic lyrics, running themes, it’s cohesive, well-done production, etc. That was exactly my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todo 30 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 hours ago, MJHolland said: I’m sorry but who is still listening to folklore A lot people still hasn't gotten bored with that album. I did the second I finished the last song and moved on to other things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGerm 562 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Todo said: A lot people still hasn't gotten bored with that album. I did the second I finished the last song and moved on to other things. I couldn't even finish it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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