xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, audrey horne said: So sick of this narrative being pushed to allow racism and every other -ism propaganda. Being inhumane is not an opinion, you need to check with yourself why you hate some people that much. It's that simple. Literally... my friend from Ireland always says "ahh but free speech" like hate speech is not free speech, when will people learn that? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Varys said: the part that you disagree with It says so in the op Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,563 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The way OP loooost me in the second sentence 😭 Messiest thread in weeks.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, Suuus said: It says so in the op First of all the OP his title is litterally an opinion not fact. His source is the white house which is not a neutral source. this is pure propaganda Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyRichie 2,109 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 what a mess of a thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Literally... my friend from Ireland always says "ahh but free speech" like hate speech is not free speech, when will people learn that? You have lovely friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorno Giovanna 3,178 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said: Literally... my friend from Ireland always says "ahh but free speech" like hate speech is not free speech, when will people learn that? Then how do you define hate speech? what makes something hate speech ? where does it start and where does it end? And who gets to decide and define hate speech? a committee of people? what kind of people decide? and how can one ensure that people who decide and define hate speech, don't define it in a way so they profit from it (which in our political landscape is definitely possible) the problem with the term hatespeech is that it's a pretty new term and only loosely defined. with no precise accuracy. some people call fair critique hate speech (because offended) while others have a more hands-on approach to call it hate speech when someone uses dirty words and language or incite violence このジョルノジョヴァンナ夢がある Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 If you think racism is a core American value to uphold...you might just be a white nationalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, Varys said: First of all the OP his title is litterally an opinion not fact. His source is the white house which is not a neutral source. this is pure propaganda I gues the training is not working very well because there is still alot of racism so more training is defenitly needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorno Giovanna 3,178 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, KanyeWest said: I haven't seen one bit about being evil but what I read is that there is a "privilege" that white people living in America should acknowledge in order to finally be less racism. And I don't think I should give you many examples of the different treatments that caucasians get instead of african-americans. Honestly, it breaks my heart to the core....when I hear an african-american gets jail for life for weed while a caucasian has been caught for murder and gets 20 years...another that comes to mind is an african-american cashing a check at the bank and gets shot by the police, no reason why...but police gets away with it. I think it is very important that caucasians, as you might be yourself, do not feel defensive but instead SUPPORTIVE towards the minorities who are suffering immensely. If you could in your heart just open up and understand how it must feel like in their shoes... Man I really appreciate you, because it feels like you are one of the single individuals in here able to discuss and debate, rather just namecalling others for having different opinions. The thing is, the current situations are all under the premise that systematic racism exists. IF systematic racism exists I would be 100% on the side of the oppressed, I swear. However how do we know that systematic racism exists? How do we define it? I have seen numbers that try to convey the message that it does exist. BUT I have also seen numbers that debunk it and show systematic racism doesn't exist. It's a back and forth, where you don't know what to believe. このジョルノジョヴァンナ夢がある Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorno Giovanna 3,178 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Varys said: First of all the OP his title is litterally an opinion not fact. His source is the white house which is not a neutral source. this is pure propaganda Why is a source of the white house pure propaganda? このジョルノジョヴァンナ夢がある Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Giorno Giovanna said: Why is a source of the white house pure propaganda? Because i don't trust the goverment and certainly not when Trump is the head of the goverment Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Giorno Giovanna said: The thing is, the current situations are all under the premise that systematic racism exists. IF systematic racism exists I would be 100% on the side of the oppressed, I swear. I think you might see it as the segregation back in the 50s kind of institutional racism but it does still exist. For example the opioid crisis only for the most major part targets white people in the country and that is because doctors are racial stereotyping and being more cautious to white people. It is also the same as with a woman who gives birth in America, black women are more likely to die giving birth because their pain are never taken seriously, their concern either. The 'american dream' whatever that meant, is much less attainable to black people than whites who start out just as poor. I think you should look for all these examples, with graphs, stats, studies... If you know there is racism in the US in a much more intense 'obvious' way then, white people have had and still have dominance over a minority and it shows, if you're looking for a proof of systematic racism just look at how the police treats black people vs white, there are plenty of examples online, and I've seen it, quite shocking, or you know....just turn on your TV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 why did i read this as trump defunds gaga vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotDoctor 708 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 If we don't talk about race in this country, we can't have racism I'm gonna get a ****ing ulcer before November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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