Towelney 1,458 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I like the song and video! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L E O 6,035 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Roxanne said: yea, her songs also have racist messages but people just dont want to see it, because she is black and she can be proud of her race, skin and she can have only black people in videos and she can sing about them. Being proud isn't being racist. Criticzing someone for it is. Also Beyoncé, racist? Can you grow the f*ck out? Racist to whom? White people? Those white people who litterally run the world and kill black people without any prejudice? Imagine being so insecure of yourself, so full of hate and bile, so blind to the world around yourself that you can't stand a MUSIC VIDEO with black people in it and have to let strangers know about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevana229 1,884 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I like her message, but this music is NOT good... its so forgettable and has zero structure. she could've made the same statement with better music... I would love if Beyonce did an overproduced dance song or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,574 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 My fave beyonce song of late. Tho i liked mmuch more until her second verse. But the lyrics compensante it. I still dont understad.. Is this project all out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 She had good intentions i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L E O 6,035 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Killa said: My fave beyonce song of late. Tho i liked mmuch more until her second verse. But the lyrics compensante it. I still dont understad.. Is this project all out? Yes! The album (The Gift) was released a year ago, and last month she released a full movie for it, on Disney+! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,574 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, L E O said: Yes! The album (The Gift) was released a year ago, and last month she released a full movie for it, on Disney+! Yeah i liked the gift. Tho i kinda enjoyed the simplicity of this song. Are there other more melodic songs on it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne 591 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I just can't understand why most of you have such a big hate against white people and against different views. Call me racist for what? I respect everyone and I support everyone when they need it. I don't hate someone for their skin color, religion, orientation or something else. I just don't hate people and it's easy to understand if you want. when I post something (no hate speech) I'm always blocked just because I have my own view and at the same time people can can spread hate in comments and say obscene word to me. and ..... of course they aren't blocked. I'm so sad that there is no freedom of speech and freedom of discuss. I don't hate anyone for different view and you just cant hide your hate against me or someone who has no same view as you. thank you for make this forum as "respectable" and "supportable" as gaga wants. P.S I'm sure I'll get another "warning" for this for no reason and this is my last comment here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 161,502 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 9:16 AM, Kapi09 said: Imagine: "White Skin Girl" Imagine being on a mostly LGBT+ site and not understanding where things like black pride or gay pride come from. Y'all really think she's proud of her skin color? in the same way we aren't proud of the fact that we like disco sticks, she is proud to be part of a community that has faced adversity and outright evil, overcome it, and continues to fight injustices today. You're stinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 smh y'all need to liste to mama tina: I still don't see how this song is anti white, so, no one can be proud of their own skin color? She never said "**** white people?" or something like that Damn, the whole album is actually about the lion king, with a few songs (like this one) being black empowered lmao Quedé That's why I hardly come back to GGD since the ARTPOP era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,901 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Wasn't initially going to respond to this but when I saw how many pages it had, I just had to see what was happening. The video itself is beautiful looking but certain lyrics to this song have always bothered me. I'm going to deal with them in the most diplomatic way I possibly can. I'm just critiquing this in the same way as I'd critique any other song, there is never any hatred intended in anything racial that I speak. This is just a deep dive into certain lyrics. @HoneyB @L E O @Joaco95 perhaps you would be interested in seeing my take on lyrics that I deem as problematic. I'm not saying Beyonce's racist but I do think she delves into some distasteful racial ideals and I hope you might be able to see where I'm coming from at the very least : "Brown skin girl, skin just like pearls, best thing in the world." - This one has multiple issues. First, as I've said from the very beginning, "brown" is commonly a word that middle eastern and south Asian people use to describe their skin, to differentiate it from other POC. Its only recently that some black people have started referring themselves as brown, therefore, when I hear this term, I'm actually more prone to associate it with a different race, so it's an odd choice. Secondly, skin just like pearls actually suggests white skin. Maybe it's a reference to black skin traditionally being very smooth and pearls are smooth but when people compare a skin colour to something, it's always a reference to the colour of the thing they're comparing it to, so pearls is again, a very odd choice of words. Finally, while no one should feel ashamed of their race, your colour should never be referred to at the best thing in the world. Racial supremacy ideas are not cool no matter what race does it. "She need an Oscar for that pretty dark skin." - This again reinforces the idea that being black is the most superior race and even now suggests that it's Oscar worthy in and of itself, even though Oscars are meant for who's the most talented in the art of film, nothing to do with looks. "Melanin too dark to throw her shade." - This weirdly suggests that your complexion is in correlation to how resilient you are to nastiness. It baffles me how Beyonce doesn't seem to realise that she just sidelined the black girls who have lower melanin levels, especially the ones who who very light skinned or could even pass as white. This is the line that makes you think that it's only meant for the darkest of black people, instead of all black people. "I love everything about you from your nappy curls." - Even I, as a white person, am shocked by the inclusion of the word "nappy" which is never spoken of in a positive light. It wasn't hard for her to replace it with "frizzy" or "afro," but she chose "nappy," which is a word choice that I just can't support. "Same skin that was broken be the same skin taking over." - I understand that coming from a discriminated race can result in being a strong person but please don't boast about taking over from a racial perspective. No race should be the only race in charge and this idea isn't any less palatable or is made better because you sing it in a pretty tune. In conclusion, I think a song about loving your skin colour could be done so much better. There are better songs about this topic out there that don't play with a racial hierarchy like this song does nor do they make statements about black being better than other races. Everyone should be happy with their skin colour and not try to change it but you should never let it define yourself as a person or hold it up above others. I know most of you won't want to listen to the opinion of a white woman on this one but I speak out of concern for all races and their self-worth when I criticise songs like this. You can make a song about the beauty of black skin in a much better way and do so without problematic references. We should be free to express our views about song lyrics when they involve race without being called racist when it's clear we come from a place of concern and hope for a world of better race relations in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seryabkina 888 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 This thread served mess as expected also, note that Beyonce doesn’t write her songs so judging her for the lyrics... well... you can take that as you like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,527 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 It always amazes me how threatened and concerned white people feel when a black person expresses even an ounce of dignity and self-confidence White supremacy at it's finest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I knew there’d be some mess in this thread, but it’s turned into a thread literally compiled out of white crybabies needing to find an issue with black pride this is a LADY GAGA (!!!) fansite. MaKe It MaKe SeNSe I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeardASine 443 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Wow these visuals are amazing! Think I'll check out the full movie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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