Queen of Pop 205 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Leadership starts from the top. If her workplace is toxic she most likely has something to do with it. Even if she wasn't the cause of it, she still knew about it and did nothing, which is bad too. She would have thousands of people under her employee. It's impossible for her to speak to every single staff member to make sure they're happy or to manage every single issue. That's why she hires the producers to oversee the daily running of the show, who she's now fired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Pathetic lack of accountability And is it also your producers fault that YOU are buddies with war criminal George W Bush? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz4Gaga 7,278 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Dukttapetoo said: There's been a huuuge Amazon boycott going on for months, if not a year. Also Ellen literally addresses not wanting to be nice all the time and not being at all relatable or understand regular people anymore in her Amazon Prime (lololol) standup special. The theme of the entire show is the fact that she's too rich and famous and disconnected from reality now. Yep I guess those boycott were effective enough coz Bezos is still earning tens of thousands of dollars per second. But that is not my point. And what? You are talking about a standup comedy special? And you are taking those things seriously and literally? Oh sweet summer child. nostalgia’s for geeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,496 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Not The Real Gaga said: Well we all know the stories about multinationals, why isn't there so much outrage about their CEO's as there is about Ellen? Because the Ellen Show is not a multinational...at most she has 500-1000 staff working in a single location. That's really not that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,134 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gagz4Gaga said: Wait until you hear the toxic workplace environment in Amazon. My point is, thousands of workplaces are toxic. But I don’t see the constant posts or reactions about them? Where’s the Amazon boycott? Why singling out Ellen? I am not defending her or anything, it’s just it quite obvious that these constant talk about the issue isn’t really about that particular workplace but more on some weird deep seated reasons to hate on a popular personality. There's been an Amazon boycott happening for a while know, IDK what you're talking about. People have been speaking out about the workplace conditions of Amazon for a long time. Regardless, it does't matter if we're "singling out" someone. Anyone who is running bad workplace conditions should be called out for it. End of story. Ellen's getting attention because she's popular and her entire brand is "kindness" and "positivity." It's hypocritical of her to run a place where people are treated unfairly when she speaks about being a good person all the time. 18 minutes ago, Not The Real Gaga said: I don't think she is directly responsible for everything that happens behind the scenes of her show. She hired producers and other staff members to take care of that. I'm not talking about her behaviour. Like I said in my post, I absolutely believe she is flawed, makes mistakes and acts inappropriate to others sometimes - like all humans. I don't think Ellen herself is the scum of the earth, absolutely not, but at the end of the day, it's her show. She needs to be responsible for her actions, that's it. Her producers were probably worse off than she was, but it's still her show. She's still the boss around there. Everything starts from the top. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,496 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Queen of Pop said: She would have thousands of people under her employee. It's impossible for her to speak to every single staff member to make sure they're happy or to manage every single issue. That's why she hires the producers to oversee the daily running of the show, who she's now fired Why is everyone here acting like Ellen is running Amazon As I said in my original post, leadership starts from the top, whether you are running the biggest company in the world or your mom's fish and chips shop with 3 employees. If your employees are creating a toxic environment, it is the leader's responsibility to set it right. Fire your producers. Hold a company wide training session or an emergency staff meeting. Ellen did NOTHING. In fact it sounds like she was complicit in it. What does that say about her leadership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 10,833 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gagz4Gaga said: Yep I guess those boycott were effective enough coz Bezos is still earning tens of thousands of dollars per second. But that is not my point. And what? You are talking about a standup comedy special? And you are taking those things seriously and literally? Oh sweet summer child. #1. You asked where the outrage for Amazon was and I told you. #2. She's addressing the issues because she understands they're issues. She talks about it herself and gives examples. I suggest you refrain from commenting on things that you have no idea about in the future, lest you make yourself look like an even bigger fool. #3. Your responses are so juvenile and demonstrate that you can't accept being told that you're wrong, even when faced with specific examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Pop 205 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Why is everyone here acting like Ellen is running Amazon As I said in my original post, leadership starts from the top, whether you are running the biggest company in the world or your mom's fish and chips shop with 3 employees. If your employees are creating a toxic environment, it is the leader's responsibility to set it right. Fire your producers. Hold a company wide training session or an emergency staff meeting. Ellen did NOTHING. In fact it sounds like she was complicit in it. What does that say about her leadership? Girl, she just DID fire her producers, and she's having smaller meetings with ALL of her staff over the next few weeks. That's the whole point of this thread. Can you learn to read before making stupid posts like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,496 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Queen of Pop said: Girl, she just DID fire her producers, and she's having smaller meetings with ALL of her staff over the next few weeks. That's the whole point of this thread. Can you learn to read before making stupid posts like that? Yeah, after several weeks of media coverage and multiple employees making allegations she finally did something...good on her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz4Gaga 7,278 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, M Monstre said: There's been an Amazon boycott happening for a while know, IDK what you're talking about. People have been speaking out about the workplace conditions of Amazon for a long time. Regardless, it does't matter if we're "singling out" someone. Anyone who is running bad workplace conditions should be called out for it. End of story. Ellen's getting attention because she's popular and her entire brand is "kindness" and "positivity." It's hypocritical of her to run a place where people are treated unfairly when she speaks about being a good person all the time. Yep apparently those boycotting are working huh. More news on Ellen than Bezos, but hey I guess it gets the more clicks. I read that they’re trying to improve on the situation so these constant calling out is just a waste of energy. 5 minutes ago, Dukttapetoo said: #1. You asked where the outrage for Amazon was and I told you. #2. She's addressing the issues because she understands they're issues. She talks about it herself and gives examples. I suggest you refrain from commenting on things that you have no idea about in the future, lest you make yourself look like an even bigger fool. #3. Your responses are so juvenile and demonstrate that you can't accept being told that you're wrong, even when faced with specific examples. 1. Sure but it was less helpful compared to the dozens of news articles that I’ve already read on that particular issue. 2. She already said that they’re taking actions with the issues so what are you yapping about still? It’s just a waste of energy. 3. I see that I hurt your feelings and took offense with what I said but I’m not obliged to apologize. nostalgia’s for geeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Dukttapetoo said: Also Ellen literally addresses not wanting to be nice all the time and not being at all relatable or understand regular people anymore in her Amazon Prime (lololol) standup special. The theme of the entire show is the fact that she's too rich and famous and disconnected from reality now. can I see this somewhere? for free FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,722 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 they’re promoting a dancer to a co-producer? did I read that right lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolkins 4,125 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Hmm idk guys, I think she exposed herself pretty good by chalking off her friendship with bush as acceptable because “people can have different opinions and still be friends”. Right okay, so basically it was totally fine to kill all those people in the Middle East with an unjust war because that was his opinion and we should respect that? It’s a joke. That in itself shows a tiny little sliver of who Ellen really is. Not the bore worms! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 This might just get them to speak ill of her, and expose some things lol. I just find it bizarre that she hasn't admitted to her own mistreatment of staff and non-celebs. The whole conversation started (and is still centered) on Ellen's own behavior. Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,134 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gagz4Gaga said: Yep apparently those boycotting are working huh. More news on Ellen than Bezos, but hey I guess it gets the more clicks. I read that they’re trying to improve on the situation so these constant calling out is just a waste of energy. The reason why Amazon is still up and running is because people keep choosing to buy from them. Direct your frustrations towards those people. Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because Amazon is still doing well doesn't mean that we can't call Ellen out for her bad workplace conditions. By your logic, let's just never call out anyone ever again because companies like Amazon are doing well. Sounds good. Right? 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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