TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: I have seen very little remarks from the campaign concerning getting young and latino people into the fold and a lot more talk about suburban voters. I really don't see what you're trying to say. It's only been 48 hours Sparky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Again, you seem to be thinking (by your additional insult here) that I can't see that the percentages went up. I'm not denying that they went up. My point is when you compare to 2016: 1. Biden polls worse with latinos than Hillary did 2. Kamala is the weakest with suburban voters in your visual above (regardless of the increase). a. since the suburban voters in the midwest are why Hillary lost it should be concerning that is Kamala's weakest area. Honestly, I don't see why everything has to be a fight. Literally anyone else could have said the same thing and it wouldn't have been a big deal but because I'm an avid Bernie wing of the party person, every remark has to be picked apart and you have to find some way to call me stupid, or racist, or privileged, or backwards or whatever the next insult is going to be. 1. Biden polls worse with latinos than Hillary did Exactly one of the reasons Kamala was chosen 2. Kamala is the weakest with suburban voters in your visual above (regardless of the increase). Again, only 48 hours Sparky. How many months did it take Bernie to lose? a. since the suburban voters in the midwest are why Hillary lost it should be concerning that is Kamala's weakest The cancellation of College football will take care of that, already a big backlash Ohio State devotee Jeff Hewitt, a Democratic strategist in Texas, called Politico's Renuka Rayasam with a theory, she wrote Tuesday night: "If college football gets canceled in the Midwest it would cost Trump the presidency. I laughed, but Hewitt was serious." And he's not alone. The Big Ten conference covers seven key battleground states with massively popular college football teams, and Monmouth University pollster Patrick Murray told The New York Times the loss of their Saturday fix could push Republican voters away from Trump, especially the tiny sliver of undecideds. "It's just one of those markers that reminds people of how much has been disrupted in their life," he said. https://theweek.com/speedreads/931074/some-analysts-think-loss-college-football-may-cost-trump-election Honestly, I don't see why everything has to be a fight. Your first post today @me "As @TOSK would say, if it means that much to you find a way." On Guard Sparky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, TOSK said: 1. Biden polls worse with latinos than Hillary did Exactly one of the reasons Kamala was chosen 2. Kamala is the weakest with suburban voters in your visual above (regardless of the increase). Again, only 48 hours Sparky. How many months did it take Bernie to lose? a. since the suburban voters in the midwest are why Hillary lost it should be concerning that is Kamala's weakest The cancellation of College football will take care of that, already a big backlash Ohio State devotee Jeff Hewitt, a Democratic strategist in Texas, called Politico's Renuka Rayasam with a theory, she wrote Tuesday night: "If college football gets canceled in the Midwest it would cost Trump the presidency. I laughed, but Hewitt was serious." And he's not alone. The Big Ten conference covers seven key battleground states with massively popular college football teams, and Monmouth University pollster Patrick Murray told The New York Times the loss of their Saturday fix could push Republican voters away from Trump, especially the tiny sliver of undecideds. "It's just one of those markers that reminds people of how much has been disrupted in their life," he said. https://theweek.com/speedreads/931074/some-analysts-think-loss-college-football-may-cost-trump-election Honestly, I don't see why everything has to be a fight. Your first post today @me "As @TOSK would say, if it means that much to you find a way." On Guard Sparky Okay. I said that because you remarked that young people "should find a way if it means so much" when I said there are more hurdles to young people voting so when the other poster complained about their ability to vote i used your sage advice from young people to passive-aggressively point out how insensitive your original comment was. Also, the campaign started before Kamala was on the ticket so your 48 hours comment is irrelevant. Kamala did not do exceptionally well with latinos and only polled at 3% in California so she wasnt chosen to bolster latino turnout because they didnt like her in the primary compared to other options. So I dont know where you think youre in the right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbing 75 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 the world we are living in... It’s a damn shame. And people actually voted for him to be president More proof that not only does he have to go but that republicans can not be trusted to be in control of either the house or the senate come next year. They are standing by and letting him do this when we all know if it was a democrat in the White House they would be screaming bloody murder. Vote ! Vote ! Vote ! and Vote early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Not good for Biden https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackjones/2020/08/11/joe-bidens-election-odds-tumble-following-kamala-harris-vp-selection-trump-closes-gap-in-presidential-betting-markets/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbing 75 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 good!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 On 8/14/2020 at 12:03 PM, bionic said: Not good for Biden https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackjones/2020/08/11/joe-bidens-election-odds-tumble-following-kamala-harris-vp-selection-trump-closes-gap-in-presidential-betting-markets/ The way I could see Biden losing because Americans yet again can't bear to vote for a woman. Even for the VP position. This is a nightmare. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,566 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said: The way I could see Biden losing because Americans yet again can't bear to vote for a woman. Even for the VP position. This is a nightmare. Not people bringing up potential issue #86448 on the list as probably 0.0001% of people actually care about that bc you don’t know anything about her record or what most Americans actually value according to polls... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Not people bringing up potential issue #86448 on the list as probably 0.0001% of people actually care about that bc you don’t know anything about her record or what most Americans actually value according to polls... Ok snark master. It is a real issue. Sexism matters, and is a very real part of why Hilary lost. So much for a mature conversation. You're rude af. Don't interact with me from now on. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,566 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 The actual main reason Hillary Clinton tanked was bc she was super corrupt and more of the same Obama era mess where people’s jobs were shipped away and they were suffering badly. Let’s stop pretending those bigoted enough to not vote for someone bc of their identity are a bigger group of people than 1% of the country... they ain’t relevant. Hope and Change Barack Obama is proof that great policy and a clean record can supersede any risky identity. Hillary and Joe cannot relate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Every major politician is corrupt, it’s a universal truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 10 hours ago, HeavyMetalLover said: Ok snark master. It is a real issue. Sexism matters, and is a very real part of why Hilary lost. So much for a mature conversation. You're rude af. Don't interact with me from now on. Hillary Clinton, a woman, got 3M more votes than Trump. Sexism was not an important factor in her loss. She lost because she ran a horrible campaign, or didn’t campaign where she needed to, underestimated her opponent and American stupidity. She had a lot of baggage, is very hated from all sides. Her having a vagina is almost irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Hillary Clinton, a woman, got 5M more votes than Trump. 2.87 million. Considering he was the other candidate, it shouldn't have even been this close. I believe, along with other serious issues with her campaign, sexism played into that election pretty significantly. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said: 2.87 million. Considering he was the other candidate, it shouldn't have even been this close. I believe, along with other serious issues with her campaign, sexism played into that election pretty significantly. I edited, Lord y’all are QUICK. I don’t think so. So many people dislike her and it’s not because she’s a woman. Neoliberals will never admit it though. It’s much easier to blame it all on sexism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I edited, Lord y’all are QUICK. I don’t think so. So many people dislike her and it’s not because she’s a woman. Neoliberals will never admit it though. It’s much easier to blame it all on sexism. I don't blame it all on sexism - I understand it's more complex than that. I'm not a neoliberal either. I'm not a fan of hers and never really was, but I recognize, in my experience, how blatantly sexist people have been and continue to be when talking about her. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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