HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, Whispering said: Her favorability went up 10 per cent in the suburbs, probably due to suburban women. Those white racists in the suburbs aren’t going to be for Biden, with or without Kamala. They are all in on Trump. Biden has the young people and the majority of Latinos. (the liberal ones) Biden is doing worse than Hillary with Latinos. Not saying that what you said is not true (that he's winning a majority of latinos) but that he's deficient there compared to 2016. And since the main campaign focus so far has been about attracting suburban voters, the fact she's just barely above water is concerning. I strongly feel they should put a lot more energy in energizing the Latino voter bc it gives them more pathways to 270 organically. If they were less hell-bent on telling progressives to shove off, they might consider bringing in Chuck Rocha who helped Bernie win the latino vote in the early primaries as the strategy they used was clearly effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plumbing 75 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Biden is doing worse than Hillary with Latinos. Not saying that what you said is not true (that he's winning a majority of latinos) but that he's deficient there compared to 2016. And since the main campaign focus so far has been about attracting suburban voters, the fact she's just barely above water is concerning. I strongly feel they should put a lot more energy in energizing the Latino voter bc it gives them more pathways to 270 organically. If they were less hell-bent on telling progressives to shove off, they might consider bringing in Chuck Rocha who helped Bernie win the latino vote in the early primaries as the strategy they used was clearly effective. AG Clinton is coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, HorusRa2 said: Actually I think you should be concerned that suburban voters are the ones that are least positive about Kamala. Since the Biden campaign strategy is focusing on suburban white voters instead of latinos and young people. Only a sore Bernie Bro could look at those numbers and NOT see increases in every category. Our recent poll on behalf of Voter Participation Center and Voto Latino found that 59% of Latino voters in key battleground states said they would be excited about Harris as VP, and 52% say the selection of Harris will make them more likely to vote for Biden. Just 20% said they would be less likely to vote Biden, giving him a net 32 point advantage with a Harris pick. https://www.laprogressive.com/kamala-harris-big-hit/ NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WZTV) — Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden's selection of Kamala Harris as his VP running mate will energize young voters, an analyst from Tennessee State University said. TSU Political Science Professor Brian Russell believes Harris will also renew interest in historically black colleges and universities. https://fox17.com/news/local/kamala-harris-as-vp-pick-will-energize-young-voters-tsu-analyst-says Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Biden is doing worse than Hillary with Latinos. Not saying that what you said is not true (that he's winning a majority of latinos) but that he's deficient there compared to 2016. And since the main campaign focus so far has been about attracting suburban voters, the fact she's just barely above water is concerning. I strongly feel they should put a lot more energy in energizing the Latino voter bc it gives them more pathways to 270 organically. If they were less hell-bent on telling progressives to shove off, they might consider bringing in Chuck Rocha who helped Bernie win the latino vote in the early primaries as the strategy they used was clearly effective. Joe Biden is conducting a massive turnaround campaign, hiring a rash of Hispanic operatives, spending $1 million in Spanish-language outreach and signing one of the nation’s top pollsters in the field, Latino Decisions. A raft of recent general election polls shows Biden with a solid lead nationwide and in many battleground states. He’s already leading among Hispanic voters. But if Biden can get the same level of support and turnout as Hillary Clinton did in 2016 — while continuing to do better than she did among black and white voters — he’s all but guaranteed to win the crucial battlegrounds of Florida and Arizona, which would effectively deny President Trump a second term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 19 hours ago, President Biden said: Obama had served nearly a decade in the Illinios State Senate and 3 years in the federal Senate (ontop of a constitutional law and teaching career before that) when running for POTUS. Meanwhile AOC’s been a House Representative for 2 years. So that equivalence is untrue. Research before making claims like this Don't bother with that one. She lies alot. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, TOSK said: Only a sore Bernie Bro could look at those numbers and NOT see increases in every category. Our recent poll on behalf of Voter Participation Center and Voto Latino found that 59% of Latino voters in key battleground states said they would be excited about Harris as VP, and 52% say the selection of Harris will make them more likely to vote for Biden. Just 20% said they would be less likely to vote Biden, giving him a net 32 point advantage with a Harris pick. https://www.laprogressive.com/kamala-harris-big-hit/ NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WZTV) — Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden's selection of Kamala Harris as his VP running mate will energize young voters, an analyst from Tennessee State University said. TSU Political Science Professor Brian Russell believes Harris will also renew interest in historically black colleges and universities. https://fox17.com/news/local/kamala-harris-as-vp-pick-will-energize-young-voters-tsu-analyst-says I think you and @Whispering are misconstruing my comments but by all means continue to alienate me because of who I voted for. All I pointed out was that Kamala was least liked among suburban voters among the categories in the original post and that considering the specific focus on trying to win over those voters and considering they are the ones who ultimately swung the election to Trump that it was concerning. I swear to god you guys would argue with me if I said the sky was blue, "Only a bernie bro would see the sky and not realize it's mauve in color." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, HorusRa2 said: to alienate me because of who I voted for. Not at all, it's cause of your A$$backwards views Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, plumbing said: some of you working over time finding kamalas flaws while giving this man more power.. smh. BULLSHITE!!!!! this is why ppl around the world hate us. I have friends from EU,Australia, NZ, Japan, Thailand etc they asked me why is your leader act like a moron? and why americans still have problem with wearing a mask? How can he possibly get away with this? This is cheating; no other way around this. This cannot be legal and he needs to be charged or thrown in jail. Utter bullshite! Imagine if a Democrat president did this and the backlash they would get from Republicans for rigging the election. And this DIRECTLY affects me because I work outside of my home state and my ONLY option to vote is by mail. Now my vote is not a guarantee. Fck this guy...I've had it with him getting away with everything! Postal workers are sounding the alarm as mail sorting machines are removed from processing facilities It's not just business as usual at the United States Postal Service. Vice News' Motherboard reported Thursday that USPS is quietly removing mail sorting machines — the very machines that are responsible for sorting ballots. There's no official explanation for the changes, and it's unclear why the machines would be removed rather than simply not used when not needed. The removals and planned removals are reportedly affecting several processing facilities across the U.S. "It'll force the mail to be worked by human hands in sorting. Guarantees to STOP productivity," a Post Office source told The Washington Post's Jacqueline Alemany. "On top of cutting the overtime needed to run the machines, can you imagine the [overtime] needed to do this [the] old hard way?" Postal workers say equipment is often moved around or replaced, but not usually at such a rate, and not in such a way that would affect workers' ability to quickly process large quantities of mail. Local union officials have no idea what's going on. "I'm not sure you're going to find an answer for why," one union president told Vice, "because we haven't figured that out either." https://theweek.com/speedreads/931215/postal-workers-are-sounding-alarm-mail-sorting-machines-are-removed-from-processing-facilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, TOSK said: Not at all, it's cause of your A$$backwards views So let's do this. 1. From that post is Kamala weakest among suburban voters? 2. Is it not the demographic that got Trump elected? 3. IF that is her weakest group (among the groups provided) is it not fair to be concerned about it? 4. What does my political views have to do with math? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: So let's do this. 1. From that post is Kamala weakest among suburban voters? 2. Is it not the demographic that got Trump elected? 3. Is it not fair to say that if that is her weakest group (among the groups provided) is it not fair to be concerned about it? 4. What does my political views have to do with math? I see increased interest in Latinos and Young, your complaint. Didn't her pick INCREASE in every group or not? Let me refresh your selective amnesia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TOSK said: I see increased interest in Latinos and Young, your complaint. Didn't her pick INCREASE in every group or not? Okay so now you're talking about Latinos and Youth vote when I was originally remarked about suburban voters and I also made a separate remark about how joe is doing worse with latinos compared to hillary in 2016. Why are you going in circles and insulting my "backwards ass views" when what I'm saying is not an attack and has nothing to do with ideology. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, HorusRa2 said: Okay so now you're talking about Latinos and Youth vote when I was originally Quote YOU "is focusing on suburban white voters instead of latinos and young people" Talk about circles, You must excel at a circle j..k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, TOSK said: I see increased interest in Latinos and Young, your complaint. Didn't her pick INCREASE in every group or not? Let me refresh your selective amnesia Again, you seem to be thinking (by your additional insult here) that I can't see that the percentages went up. I'm not denying that they went up. My point is when you compare to 2016: 1. Biden polls worse with latinos than Hillary did 2. Kamala is the weakest with suburban voters in your visual above (regardless of the increase). a. since the suburban voters in the midwest are why Hillary lost it should be concerning that is Kamala's weakest area. Honestly, I don't see why everything has to be a fight. Literally anyone else could have said the same thing and it wouldn't have been a big deal but because I'm an avid Bernie wing of the party person, every remark has to be picked apart and you have to find some way to call me stupid, or racist, or privileged, or backwards or whatever the next insult is going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TOSK said: Quote YOU "is focusing on suburban white voters instead of latinos and young people" Talk about circles, You must excel at a circle j..k Again: I am referring to the way the campaign has framed what their strategy has been to win. I have seen very little remarks from the campaign concerning getting young and latino people into the fold and a lot more talk about suburban voters. I really don't see what you're trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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