Ladey Gaygay 9,321 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, thehanyo said: Not taking Trump seriously in 2016 is how you gave us Trump in the first place. Everything he campaigned on he has tried to execute while within office. The promises that Biden/Harris are making RIGHT NOW on the campaign trail are what voters will hold them accountable. Not your bullshit smear pieces from the 90s. listen...she JAILED THOUSANDS of men and women for smoking pot and with LONG sentences that STILL are going on, but all the sudden she's "progressive" even though she refuses to release them. We arent doing a bullshit smear from the 90s, we're telling the TRUTH as recently as 2011 ACAB homie until the death of me STREAM JUICE BY LIZZO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 30,860 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, GagaSine said: Lmao that is just ahistorical and completely untrue, America was built upon and runs on white supremacy. The entire power system in place wants nothing more than to maintain systemic racism, that’s why even with all these protests all that has really changed is corporations paying more lip service. she should have quit her job. And there are plenty of courts that twist the laws and do with them what they like. Following an unjust law because it is the law is not an excuse, it is cowardice. a better world is easily possible, we need to stop making excuses. At the time, there was not broad public support for her to be an activist AG. In reality, if she had taken major steps to change the system, someone would have filed an Inspectors General report and all of the steps she was taking would have been discovered. And since it's the not the role of an AG, she would have been removed. And maybe there were smaller things she could have done, but didn't, it's fair game to hold her to account, but she's listened and she's answered as best she can. So sure, it would have been brave, but it wouldn't have been successful and it's more unlikely she'd be where she is today. As for those treated unjustly in the system - there is so much blame to go around that it becomes impossible to truly blame any one person. They're mostly people who have been failed by every level of government - not just justice. Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbing 75 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Florin said: I dont like Harris, but this thread shows that people have so short attention span. And because of that, Trump still has a chance in November. Harris is better than Trump and his white hoods. sadly this will happen to every black person who tries to fight for the highest positions in our country. Trump and his base are racists. That’s also just a fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ladey Gaygay said: listen...she JAILED THOUSANDS of men and women for smoking pot and with LONG sentences that STILL are going on, but all the sudden she's "progressive" even though she refuses to release them. We arent doing a bullshit smear from the 90s, we're telling the TRUTH as recently as 2011 ACAB homie until the death of me She jailed pot smokers while laughing about smoking pot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gaygay 9,321 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Faysalaaa said: She jailed pot smokers while laughing about smoking pot thats the worst part STREAM JUICE BY LIZZO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Actually nobody is talking about whats in her heart, we are talking about her record and actions. You guys are the one making excuses about her having a change of her and that people change and she had good intentions. Kamala is rated in the top five most Progressive Senators. As a new AG, Harris also helped push through a bill in the California Legislature that offered homeowners some of the strongest protections in the nation against aggressive foreclosure tactics by banks, which was credited in part for a plunge in foreclosures in the state. The measure also gave private citizens the right to sue financial institutions if they violated the law. Shortly after taking office, Harris created a mortgage fraud task force that not only assisted with the mortgage settlement, but also went after financial firms that targeted homeowners facing foreclosure. The task force also took legal action against the banks and financial ratings firms for the massive losses that California’s two giant public pension systems, the California Public Employees’ Retirement System and California State Teachers’ Retirement System, sustained after unknowingly investing in securities that included risky subprime mortgages. “As the fraud was being uncovered, many of the AGs were yelling ‘Settle, settle, settle.’ They just wanted to get their hands on the money,” said Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who during the negotiations was setting up the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau for the Obama administration. Warren has endorsed Harris for U.S. Senate and has appeared in one of the attorney general’s campaign ads. “[Harris] was the one who said ‘No, we have to do better, and we have to investigate more. Too many families have been destroyed by the crisis and the illegal activity of these banks.’” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 The total shape shifting into pretzels to defend Kamala Harris in this thread is just mind numbing to witness. At this point you guys sound like the people who said Trump could shoot someone on the street and still vote for him. You all really sound that crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,264 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Still surprised the VP pick is Copala. Really glad he didn't pick Mayor Pete. Anyway, he seems to know what he's doing with this one & aside from still being pissed at the way Bernie was treated & of how inefectual Biden is, I still want them to get in because its better than the alternative tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 30,860 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Kamala was ordered to release prisoners, and she refused because doing this would deny California labor pool. So dont act like she was just doing her job when the system asked her to release prisoners and she refused because she wanted to use them for slave labor and use them to risk their lives to put out the california fires. She then said she knew jailing single mothers was not popular, but she wanted to quit anyway and had an extra political capital to spend it on jailing single mothers. Vote for her but stop making excuses for literal racism and horrible actions. If you are going to make excuses for her horrible actions by blaming the system, why not do the same with Trump? in that case, it was lawyers for the california AG that made those arguments When it was brought to Kamala's attention, she was upset, and directed the lawyers to never make those arguments again. Again, California has a larger population than Canada - more than Saudi Arabia - so it's a massive, massive system. Things go through lawyers, and there are layers and layers of bureaucrats with various interests and objectives. Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenOfSaigon 624 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: The total shape shifting into pretzels to defend Kamala Harris in this thread is just mind numbing to witness. At this point you guys sound like the people who said Trump could shoot someone on the street and still vote for him. You all really sound that crazy. Calm down. You have your opinion, we have ours. Its that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Whispering said: Kamala is rated in the top five most Progressive Senators. "Most" Progressive does not mean she's actually "Progressive." It just means out of the less than 50 democrats she's among the least right wing of the bunch. Nancy Pelosi, Warren, Bernie, AOC, Rashida, Hillary and Kamala all claim to be progressives but there is a lot of ideological space between the small list I just gave you. The word progressive doesn't necessarily mean very much when everybody and their mother use it as a label to make them seem better than they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, QueenOfSaigon said: Calm down. You have your opinion, we have ours. Its that simple. It's not really an opinion. You're just choosing to ignore facts and justify them. It doesn't matter what egregious thing she has done in her past, you guys are defending each and every one of them. Not a single one of you have said, "yeah, she's done these horrible things but I'm voting for her and Biden because they aren't as bad as Trump." Instead, you're constantly defending her horrible actions and decisions. It's why we never get actual progressives because you're willing to settle for someone who says, "Well the last 20 years I was a complete dingbat but I swear I'll get it right this time." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 30,860 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: She jailed pot smokers while laughing about smoking pot The system jailed them. She was the head of the system, but in that system, she does not get to be part of writing the laws, or deciding if the laws get followed or not. As for being a hypocrite. Sure. But does that mean if you've driven over the limit you can't give a speeding ticket? Or had driven drunk could give DUI's? It's a weak argument because it doesn't take into account what it would take for an AG to make moves that were both against law and the precedent. Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gaygay 9,321 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, QueenOfSaigon said: Calm down. You have your opinion, we have ours. Its that simple. opinions are fine yes, but defending kamala after the heinous things she did is just blatant ignorance. I hope biden wins because anything is better than trump but im not going to defend a old predator and a hypocritcal cop STREAM JUICE BY LIZZO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Bonkers said: in that case, it was lawyers for the california AG that made those arguments When it was brought to Kamala's attention, she was upset, and directed the lawyers to never make those arguments again. WTF?!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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