Othon 34,299 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, MJHolland said: Please ask yourself "what is the point of my comment" before clicking "post". You are accomplishing nothing. You have no point. You just came here to bash, and it's not a cute look. You’re the one outright insulting every other person in this thread right now for... pointing out Harris’ record. Holding her accountable for her long record of exploiting marginalized people to advance her career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, MJHolland said: Please ask yourself "what is the point of my comment" before clicking "post". You are accomplishing nothing. You have no point. You just came here to bash, and it's not a cute look. Stating my opinion on this public forum. Referring to her history of debate performance to make an informed prediction on how she will fare in the future. I'd rather Biden/Harris than Trump/Pence but the fact is that she can't stand up to criticism herself (see Tulsi Gabbard) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, OG Gaga Stan said: You’re the one outright insulting every other person in this thread right now for... pointing out Harris’ record. Holding her accountable for her long record of exploiting marginalized people to advance her career. It's as if they don't know Republicans will twist and use this at every turn. God, some of you are SO BAD at politics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShtoopidLahv 710 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, MJHolland said: It's literally called shooting yourself in the foot when you're 2 months out from the election and your criticism is just blind and pointless. It’s called holding your leaders accountable and pressuring them, something Democrat cultists should try for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Bonkers said: The justice system in the USA is corrupt and racist. Kamala worked her way up in that system. Blaming Kamala for things she inherited is low. A DA is there to enforce the law, not to write it. And if she had been an activist or gone rogue, she wouldn't have stayed in the job AND she would not have been successful at changing anything. Just like Donald Trump is hindered by process and a system (thank God), so was Kamala. Maybe she could have done more, found more ways to take a stand, but blaming her the actions of a corrupt system is not reasonable in the real world. It's like getting a job at McDonald's and then being shamed for not helping animals 10 years from now when that issue is at the forefront. And again, now that Kamala has done what she's had to do to move up in a corrupt system, she has more and more power to make real changes. It's how the system works, and it's how the system is going to change. Huge congrats to her for being able to work her way up in a system that is intrinsically against her. That's no easy feat. But she pulls up the ladder behind her and doesn't even try to improve it so others don't have to struggle like she (presumably) did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 The people on this site and in this country who believe you can't criticize the Democrats or the Democratic ticket and spew the same stale argument "bUt iT HeLpS RePuBlIcAnS!!!" are the worst. To these people everyone is supposed to shut up, get in line, never question, and just conform while having no thoughts of their own. That's literally toeing the line of authoritarianism. Bottom line is we can criticize all we want and SPEAK THE TRUTH about these candidates, all the while understanding the existential threat Trump poses and settling for Biden anyway for that reason. You people clearly don't know how to walk and chew gum at the same time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Sorry some of us have values and advocate for what we believe is the best. I have every right to criticize EVERY SINGLE PERSON running for office. Sorry not sorry. Congratulations! You are much holier than me obviously. FYSA, maybe you missed this when you were banned idk lol, but the Democratic party actually held a primary contest to do just that! It lasted about a year and we all discussed and advocated for our values and what we believe in. This is the result of that democratic process. Now is the time where you chose a side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSine 7,464 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Bonkers said: The justice system in the USA is corrupt and racist. Kamala worked her way up in that system. Blaming Kamala for things she inherited is low. A DA is there to enforce the law, not to write it. And if she had been an activist or gone rogue, she wouldn't have stayed in the job AND she would not have been successful at changing anything. Just like Donald Trump is hindered by process and a system (thank God), so was Kamala. Maybe she could have done more, found more ways to take a stand, but blaming her the actions of a corrupt system is not reasonable in the real world. It's like getting a job at McDonald's and then being shamed for not helping animals 10 years from now when that issue is at the forefront. And again, now that Kamala has done what she's had to do to move up in a corrupt system, she has more and more power to make real changes. It's how the system works, and it's how the system is going to change. That is not the same at all, one involves wielding power and the other one is a minimum wage job lmao. The level of control there is entirely different. No one forced her to be a DA. I don’t believe in changing the system from inside. Plenty of politicians have promised that Sh!t and to only be revealed as cowards with no values. The System needs to be torn down and destroyed, but that’s just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 30,860 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, bionic said: Huge congrats to her for being able to work her way up in a system that is intrinsically against her. That's no easy feat. But she pulls up the ladder behind her and doesn't even try to improve it so others don't have to struggle like she (presumably) did You're making some pretty big assumptions there. And I'd like to ask you - do they even make sense? Why would a black woman who grew up without advantage do that when she would have more power doing the opposite? It doesn't even make sense, and pulling out a few isolated incidents and making wildly certain conclusions - are you really sure you're right? Because if you're not right - and she's been moving in the right direction and making changes - then aren't you kind of an asshole? Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 He literally thinks Tulsi Gabbard is a better debater than Kamala hahahahahahah I have to laugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, MJHolland said: Congratulations! You are much holier than me obviously. FYSA, maybe you missed this when you were banned idk lol, but the Democratic party actually held a primary contest to do just that! It lasted about a year and we all discussed and advocated for our values and what we believe in. This is the result of that democratic process. Now is the time where you chose a side. Democracy isn't a one off event, it's an ongoing process. Remember that Harris didn't even make the ballot. I imagine most people who are here talking to you have chosen the Dem side, but are disillusioned with the choices the party's leaders continue to make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, MJHolland said: He literally thinks Tulsi Gabbard is a better debater than Kamala hahahahahahah I have to laugh Not at all Just pointing out that Kamala was blindsided by the fact that someone had the nerve to question her, and she couldn't come back from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, ShtoopidLahv said: It’s called holding your leaders accountable and pressuring them, something Democrat cultists should try for once. This. Many of the Democrats in here sure feel like cultists with the way they talk and stifle accountability, so that's accurate. The point of having leaders is to hold them accountable and pressure them, that's healthy. You're not supposed to just accept every little thing they do and treat them like royalty like so many in this thread would have you believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Bonkers said: You're making some pretty big assumptions there. And I'd like to ask you - do they even make sense? Why would a black woman who grew up without advantage do that when she would have more power doing the opposite? It doesn't even make sense, and pulling out a few isolated incidents and making wildly certain conclusions - are you really sure you're right? Because if you're not right - and she's been moving in the right direction and making changes - then aren't you kind of an asshole? Exactly. These people talk like they've know her all her life and know what's in her heart. It's so cringey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bonkers said: You're making some pretty big assumptions there. And I'd like to ask you - do they even make sense? Why would a black woman who grew up without advantage do that when she would have more power doing the opposite? It doesn't even make sense, and pulling out a few isolated incidents and making wildly certain conclusions - are you really sure you're right? Because if you're not right - and she's been moving in the right direction and making changes - then aren't you kind of an asshole? What evidence to you have to the contrary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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