HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, Modern Ecstasy2 said: For sure, her experiences are hers and they are valid. The tweets were meaningless communication, in my opinion, and I agree she didn’t need to say anything at all. Except if she felt like saying something like, “I acknowledge that others have had very different experiences than me, and I’m sending love and support to those people” or something, to extend some empathy. See, that would come off as insincere/pandering to me. She has no direct relationship with those people, whereas she does with Ellen, so what would be the point? i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Suspiria said: Katy has done nothing wrong here. She explicitly says "I can't speak for anyone else's experience". Everyone is jumping on this Ellen hate bandwagon. A witch hunt. When in fact none of the allegations about the show are actually about Ellen right? Katy is just providing some perspective. Helping to provide a more complete view of Ellen's character. And as someone who has actually met Ellen multiple times, she is in a good position to do that. If someone was consistently nice to you, and you considered them a friend, should you just sit in silence while everyone totally assassinates their character? this is so wrong... it's like saying "oh x is not racist/homophobic/transphobic/islamaphobic/etc. because my interactions with x have always been pleasant" ... if there were allegations against a friend or someone close, yes, i would support them behind the scenes because it's "innocent until proven guilty" but I would never start making public statements on how my explicit experiences with that person have been good. you say katy is considered "a friend" - with this logic katy can only provide a biased opinion and literally adds nothing to the conversation. melania always says trump is nice to her blah blah blah but that doesn't discredit any of the allegations or what a horrible human being he actually is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Didn't Katy also say similar things when the whole Dr Luke/Kesha scandal happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspiria 10,683 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, coolninjaguy said: this is so wrong... it's like saying oh x is not racist/homophobic/transphobic/islamaphobic/etc. because my interactions with x have always been pleasant. if there were allegations against a friend or someone close, yes, i would support them behind the scenes because it's "innocent until proven guilty" but I would never start making public statements on how my explicit experiences with that person have been good. you say katy is considered "a friend" - with this logic katy can only provide a biased opinion and literally adds nothing to the conversation. melania always says trump is nice to her blah blah blah but that doesn't discredit any of the allegations or what a horrible human being he actually is. Melania saying Trump is nice doesn't discredit allegations against him because he is the most powerful man in the world and is literally being accused of rape, racism, spreading misinformation, rigging elections, countless other things which all have massive consequences due to his position. Ellen, a talk show host, is being accused of being... not nice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, Suspiria said: Melania saying Trump is nice doesn't discredit allegations against him because he is the most powerful man in the world and is literally being accused of rape, racism, spreading misinformation, rigging elections, countless other things which all have massive consequences due to his position. Ellen, a talk show host, is being accused of being... not nice? i can't with how some of y'all defend these millionaires/billionaires like y'all are on their payroll. these people literally don't know you and if they did they could care less about you... all they care about is $$$ and they'll do anything to secure it and will go lengths to protect ppl in their inner circles bc those ppl will also scratch their back when the time comes. if employee's are accusing ellen of this, let ellen respond instead of defending her and her "supporters" when she hasn't even put out a statement herself yet LOL. and ellen is a horrible person based on her track record... she literally bullied and publicly shamed her own audience member for taking an extra keychain or something at the ellen store and put her on "time out". she's also friends with war criminal george bush, and brought him on her show saying we should be friends with ppl with "differing opinions". this is the same man that started the unecessary war in iraq which led to over a million innocent women, children and civilians dying AND the rape of children in prisons such as bagram. if you're not educated on topics such as these its better not to defend people like ellen because these people are not as black/white as you may think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyaway 15,350 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Of course she's nice to you Katy, you're a celebrity. Try asking her for a job and see how she treats you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeth 929 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Well she also looked high out of her mind while she was there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,900 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Faysalaaa said: This is how people who say "I only judge people by how they treat me" act Although im a bit shocked by the amount of big influence friends Ellen has, yet none of them tried to defend her or show support! They smell the blood and are staying out of it. Celebrities are on pretty shaky ground rn anyway so best let the people feast is probably their thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 We’re so quick so cancel women but easily ignore repugnant behavior from men. Get it together, gheys. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme More 35,393 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 she's sticking to the theme of her era so well truly the clown of pop A bully who makes fun of people's mental health sticking up for another bully? how shocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonkey 639 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Well it’s a good thing I didn’t order her vinyl! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLover 16 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gimme More said: she's sticking to the theme of her era so well truly the clown of pop A bully who makes fun of people's mental health sticking up for another bully? how shocking Omg she said some shady sh*t, CANCELLEDT! Please. i don't remember ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,786 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Daylight Jokers said: I remember her last guesting on that show. It was awkward af and Ellen seemed annoyed by her. It's clear that they had a falling out, as it was awkward and Gaga hasn't been back on since. Ellen hinted that it was because of Gaga wearing the meat dress and fur, but I think it has to be more than that. Gaga has a good judgment of character and distanced herself from other people who soon after became notoriously problematic: Kanye, Azealia, Ellen, Terry Richardson, R Kelly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,786 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 5 hours ago, darkpaw said: Why tf are you all acting surprised. If she wants to send a supportive message to her friend then she has every right. She’s not doubting any of the claims against Ellen, just speaking on their relationship. Because she's trying to help Ellen look better and speaking as if she isn't a part of the "special class" of people who Ellen actually treats nicely because she's an A-lister. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMiddleGround 3,278 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, MonsterofFame said: It's clear that they had a falling out, as it was awkward and Gaga hasn't been back on since. Ellen hinted that it was because of Gaga wearing the meat dress and fur, but I think it has to be more than that. Gaga has a good judgment of character and distanced herself from other people who soon after became notoriously problematic: Kanye, Azealia, Ellen, Terry Richardson, R Kelly + Perez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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