NFRatwell 23,290 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I wanted to make a thread discussing/covering the concepts of “the original LG5”. This isn’t meant to be Joanne shade or anything, but I’m bored right now and since we’re in the dark with Chromatica I thought I could divert my attention to something else. What’s the difference between Joanne and “the original LG5”? Surprisingly there are still a lot of people on the fence about whether there’s a difference or not. What we do know is that Joanne, aside from Angel Down, did not exist until 2016, when Gaga and Mark Ronson spent 6 months coming up with the concept of the album and writing the music. That’s what’s important to answer this question. Joanne as a concept did not exist until after they began working with each other, so the original concept of Gaga’s 5th solo album was not meant to be about family/her personal life in the way that Joanne is. What we do know is that Gaga teased the concept of the album in 2014 as her “operating” on her old self. What exactly does this mean though? Well, it seems that the goal for this album was, as RedOne stated, to “recreate” the magic of her past albums, most notably TFM. When Elton John teased LG5 in January of 2016, he said that the music was a return to her old roots, stating the music sounded like Bad Romance and Yoü and I. It’s safe to assume that the album was sonically meant to replicate her older dance pop work. Topics explored on the album It seemed to be heavily implied that the topics on the album would somehow revolve around darkness, with a focus on mythical beings. When Gaga began teasing the album in late 2014, she made a post about Vampires, as well as another about a witch. She could have possibly been teasing her roll on American Horror Story, although later we found out there was a leaked song title “Frankensteined” which belonged to the project, and ties into the concept. Collaborators Although we don’t know which artists were ultimately meant to be on the album, we know for sure that Gaga had been working with/contacted by the following artists: RedOne (100% meant for the album), Diane Warren, Nile Rodgers, Giorgio Moroder, Elton John, possibly Adele How far along was the album, and why did it get scrapped? In June of 2016, RedOne said that they had originally chosen a lead single for the album, but plans had changed. Based off the lack of legal documents surrounding the album, it seems that the concept was secured and there were multiple tracks prepared (Which is why there would be a lead single chosen), but it was never officially sent to the record label. RedOne also confessed that he didn’t know where she was at musically anymore, and that the music they made together was amazing. Later he told an interviewer that she wanted to go a more “country” route with the album. Many people believe the death of David Bowie, Gaga’s biggest idol, resulted in the artistic change. It was also around this time that her engagement with Taylor had ended, which would have resulted in her wanting to write more break up inspired songs such as Perfect Illusion, Million Reasons, and Sinners Prayer. While Mark could’ve been added to the team to help add some last minute influences to the album, it seems ultimately that he influenced Gaga to change directions too. If you have anymore tea to spill feel free! And again this isn’t an anti-Joanne thread so don’t start dragging her Ultimately I’m glad we got Joanne as it helped diversify her discography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo 37,977 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 She could go ahead and give it to us in the meantime Unless RedOne has sold them songs to Ava M*x 툭 까보면 어김없이 소리질러와 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I can't believe she changed the 2016 Grammys performance last minute. She was teasing something HUGE at that time. I enjoyed the Bowie tribute performance, but man...... what a disappointment. I really thought she was going to premiere a new single. Also, don't forget that Gaga wanted to make darker music that was inspired by The Countess during this time! dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 The concept of that album was so good. To bad it never saw the light of the day. I mean who wouldn't love an album about darkness and pain. I'm not talking about the straights tho Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJA 5,215 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, ToxicHot said: I can't believe she changed the 2016 Grammys performance last minute. She was teasing something HUGE at that time. I enjoyed the Bowie tribute performance, but man...... what a disappointment. I really thought she was going to premiere a new single. Also, don't forget that Gaga wanted to make darker music that was inspired by The Countess during this time! Wizard behind the curtain I remember seeing that commercial thinking something crazy was going to happen Mr. No Award Winner 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,576 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I image that it was going to be this blood-fueled disco/funk record with dark undertones tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 57,261 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 In 2015 two demos (titles only) were registered with the US Copyright Office called Vampira and Wicked Ways Not sure if for LG5 but there was a rumoured concept called Vampire back in the day so Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo 37,977 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, dynamite said: In 2015 two demos (titles only) were registered with the US Copyright Office called Vampira and Wicked Ways Thanks God they are unreleased then 툭 까보면 어김없이 소리질러와 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiQuenDroid 5,059 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Hope it'll leak someday... All I ever wanted was love... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtpopAct2 2,672 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 God reading this I want it so bad The fact that descriptions of her two scrapped albums (more experimental ARTPOP and dark return to her roots) sound like they could be my favs from her is so frustrating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiQuenDroid 5,059 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, dynamite said: In 2015 two demos (titles only) were registered with the US Copyright Office called Vampira and Wicked Ways Not sure if for LG5 but there was a rumoured concept called Vampire back in the day so "Room In My Heart" with Elton John too All I ever wanted was love... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 57,261 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, MiQuenDroid said: "Room In My Heart" with Elton John too That's a real but terrible title Like a poem said by a neydy in red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, NFRockwell said: since we’re in the dark with Chromatica I thought I could divert my attention to something else. Say it louder for the liddos in the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I'm also very jealous of the fans that heard the DJWS songs for LG6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiQuenDroid 5,059 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, dynamite said: That's a real title Actually yes https://repertoire.bmi.com/DetailView.aspx?detail=titleid&keyid=21611752&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&blnAltTitles=True All I ever wanted was love... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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