Missouri governor: "kids will get over it" (Covid-19)

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

8 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

So I came up with a well crafted argument against all of your points, and this is the only thing you decide to comment on? Thank you for the lovely thought and input that you put into the conversation.

P.S. "Defunding the police" doesn't mean getting rid of the police entirely. It means taking some of the funds OUT OF police institutions and reinvesting it in public transport, schooling, etc. For someone who's apparently really invested in politics, you sure know nothing

They’re a Biden cultist, of course they would identify more with Republicans then Democrats 

[GagaSine 7,464]

1 minute ago, Marilyn MonHoe said:

They’re a Biden cultist, of course they would identify more with Republicans then Democrats 

Yeah not the best representation for uncle joe 

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

Stupid must be a contagious virus also 

[Aga Gydal 3,158]

2 hours ago, President Biden said:

 but it isn’t.

 

Literally NOBODY of any power is saying to not wear a mask. Trump encouraged people to wear one. Same with Pence, **** Cheney, etc. So that’s just a bad argument because literally no one of any political office is anti-mask. Sure are some people skeptical of the tyranny of government mandating masks? Yes. Are some people skeptical about the science behind masks, as they don’t prevent all transmission? Also yes. And that’s fair, understandable and okay. We should always question things.

 

But what the article does point out is:

 

1.  Case and point, children don’t contract nor die of this disease. Claim apl the theory you want, but the #s show that the amount of cases in ages 8-18 are statistically null.
 

2. School is not “guaranteed safety” from all risk. Students get killed in sports injuries at school. High schoolers die in car accidents. Etc etc etc. So to just cancel all school because of a limited risk, would be to cancel it indefinitely. 

 

3. Online school, like you said, is not affordable. But not just on college tuition, but in all K-12 schools. Lower income area schools, where students frequently lack internet access and safety at home, are not just unable to do school because the government hasn’t bought them a new Chromebook. That’s an easy band-aid of a fix. These kids love in unsafe environments. The amount of abuse has risen due to lockdown, as people are forced to stay at home with abusive individuals. Students are less likely to seek shelter in teachers about issues like LGBT discrimination if they are stuck in an unwelcoming home. Working parents cannot handle doubling down as a homeschool teacher in an already crumbling economy.

 

You do get how economics work, right? We can’t just print more money and expect problems to disappear. Schools (in person) HAVE to reopen. For children’s sake. For working parent’s sake. For the future of American. 

 

This is some nonsense. First of all, there's nothing "tyrannical" about forcing people to wear a ****ing mask. It's a mild inconvenience to address a debilitating pandemic that has killed more than 100,000 people in the US, and could possibly kill 200,000. The fact that people are so bent out of shape about the government forcing you to do something is the kind of dumb thinking that's keeping our hospitals flooded with new cases. The government also mandates us not to injure others and litter on the street. Some things need to be enforced for the well-being of our society. If you have a problem with enforcing masks then you either don't understand how severe this sickness is, or you truly don't give a **** about other people.

You're also dense as hell if you think the Trump administration hasn't done everything they can to avoid saying "you must wear a mask." His recent pageant photo with a mask is nice, if he didn't wait 4 months to do one. The fact is that a mask helps minimalize the spread of COVID. Yes it isn't 100% effective in every single case, but is still 99% more effective than parading around without one. That's enough reason to tell people they have to wear it. 

And kids getting COVID is not a self-contained issue. They will easily spread it to teachers, staff, their families, who will spread it to others, and so on. This idea of "most kids will recover" is ignoring the fact that hospitals will be out of resources (and room) for new admits, healthcare expenses will sink families, and more adults will end up getting sick and/or staying home with the sick kids. Do you think an economy can thrive when most people are sick and/or dying?

America is failing at getting a grip on this virus because we have been trained to think so individualistically that "keep each other safe" is now coded as "the government is tyrannical and wants to step on my rights." This is a bigger issue than you're making it and I don't know how much longer we have to wait for ya'll to get the damn memo.

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26 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said:

They’re a Biden cultist, of course they would identify more with Republicans then Democrats 

I'm sad that I have to vote with these people  

[SharkmanthaC 115,364]

2 hours ago, Franch Toast said:

But kids are catching it, some of whom are experiencing devastating symptoms. Moreover, we still don't know about the long-term effects the disease has on the body, even in mild cases. 

Moreover, you need someone to teach these kids, you need custodians, you need people working the lunchrooms, etc. These are adults, many of whom will fall into the high-risk category. What happens when these people get the virus and are out for weeks? Who is going to take over their jobs, and will the class/school need to be shut down for two weeks to have everyone who's come into contact with the affected people quarantine? Also, let's face it: a lot of these schools have terrible ventilation systems and are not so great at keeping things clean to begin with.

Add onto that: if schools do reopen, do not expect students to have the same in-person experience as they did in the past. In-person learning will by necessity be an empty shell of an experience. It will also be traumatic. I'm still traumatized from watching ET as a kid and seeing all those scientists in biohazard suits – imagine seeing your teachers dressed like that in person, because some of them will be!

Teachers are being told to write their goddamn wills in order to go back to work. I care about teachers like @SamanthaC and would like to keep them alive and healthy. I also acknowledge that yes, there are tons of reasons why students need to attend in-person school. This is a crappy situation no matter what. I won't judge parents who choose to send their kids to school if their schools reopen, just as I won't judge parents who choose to keep them home. Similarly, I won't judge teachers who choose to retire early or find a different job so that they don't have to risk their lives for crappy pay. Every teacher who teaches in person during the pandemic deserves hazard pay. 

 

Some kids will get over it, but some won't.  Some may die. Would you want to volunteer your child for that?  It's basically like playing Russian Roulette with your child! 

Some teachers may die.  Can you imagine telling a group of students their teacher died? We don't have enough subs the way it is, I don't see that being better now. 

Not to mention school will look nothing like what it did pre covid.  It will be like prison.  Students will not be able to interact with one another, won't be able to use materials, etc.  Honestly if students have to go back to school, it's a big liability for teachers. I will not sign any waiver that doesn't hold my place of employment responsible. (There is more in this thread of tweets.)

This is a good start to why I don't think it's a good idea: Please read the questions, they raise a lot of important questions we can't get the answers to.

 

And don't get me wrong, I want to be in school, in person when it is safe.  RIght now, no one is taking proper safety measures.  There have even been some teachers that have received letters from parents already stating their kids can't wear masks for xyz reason.

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let’s acknowledge that HE would ever send HIS kid to a public/private school either. Scum 

[Alladin Sane 505]

It's just sad and awful to read something like this. And it makes me more upset to remember that we also have this s**t talk in Brazil.

[KindnessPunk28 1,506]

2 hours ago, GagaSine said:

Praying that Canada keeps the border closed as long as possible 

While I agree overall, these kinds of broad statements show a lack of regard for people who are suffering greatly from this border closing. My fiance lives in Toronto and I live in North Carolina, we haven't seen each other in almost 6 months. And I'm not the only example of the the turmoil this closing has caused for so many families. I'm happy you guys have a better government up there and are faring way better than us in the States. But just remember it's not a black and white "positive" situation. 

[GagaSine 7,464]

6 minutes ago, KindnessPunk28 said:

While I agree overall, these kinds of broad statements show a lack of regard for people who are suffering greatly from this border closing. My fiance lives in Toronto and I live in North Carolina, we haven't seen each other in almost 6 months. And I'm not the only example of the the turmoil this closing has caused for so many families. I'm happy you guys have a better government up there and are faring way better than us in the States. But just remember it's not a black and white "positive" situation. 

I understand that and I fully empathize, however the risk and gravity of the situation I still think it is for the best. There should be exemptions for certain special situations but I really don’t want my family to be put in danger by people fleeing the states...

there are plenty of people here already anyway that are refusing to wear masks and making irresponsible choices. I just don’t want it to become worse.