BABYL0N 3,157 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Lemonky said: I would not vote for democrats nor republicans lmao But you would vote for Apartheid politicians? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
March34th 1,973 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I think people are forgetting that the United States doesn't recognize Palestine's legitimacy, only Israels. When you view Google Maps in a certain country, you will see the countries that government recognizes, which is why in certain countries versions of Google Maps, you'll see places like Abkhazia or South Ossetia clearly labeled when these nations are not recognized by most UN members (similar to Palestine). The problem doesn't lay in Google's hands, it lays in the hands of governments. I think everyone has good intentions when getting outraged about this but it seem many people are confused. Google never removed Palestine off Google Maps, but the truth behind it all is something we should be angry about. I wish every nation could have full recognition and the right to thrive and exist as itself but sadly in todays political global climate we have many issues like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Just now, March34th said: I think people are forgetting that the United States doesn't recognize Palestine's legitimacy, only Israels. When you view Google Maps in a certain country, you will see the countries that government recognizes, which is why in certain countries versions of Google Maps, you'll see places like Abkhazia or South Ossetia clearly labeled when these nations are not recognized by most UN members (similar to Palestine). The problem doesn't lay in Google's hands, it lays in the hands of governments. I think everyone has good intentions when getting outraged about this but it seem many people are confused. Google never removed Palestine off Google Maps, but the truth behind it all is something we should be angry about. I wish every nation could have full recognition and the right to thrive and exist as itself but sadly in todays political global climate we have many issues like this The problem is that in countries where it was recognized, it's not there anymore Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
March34th 1,973 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Dramatica said: Why does Google enforce political views on their map tool? Yes Palestine and Israel territories overlap. Yes Kosovo and Serbia territories overlap. Yes China and Taiwan territories overlap. But that's the definition of geographical conflicts. And Google is in no right place to decide which side to promote more than the other.. Put every fukcing country recognized by the UN on that map. Even the least recognized ones. very good point. it causes a lot of confusion and conflict for Google to only be following guidelines in the sense of going along with whatever country they're in to decide which nation gets put on the map. it's so sad. i can't imagine how upsetting it would be to live in one of these unrecognized or partially unrecognized countries and know that in some places in the world, people open google maps or an encyclopedia or something and your nation just isn't there, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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March34th 1,973 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sherry1411 said: The problem is that in countries where it was recognized, it's not there anymore ohh i see, yeah that is definitely messed up then. i just have seen a lot of Americans and Canadians getting upset about this and assuming Google decided recently to just wipe Palestine off. I know the Gaza Strip and West Bank are defined in the area with dotted lines but Palestine has never been clearly shown on the Canadian/American google's versions of Maps, which is still upsetting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 The whole Palestine vs. Israel beef is sooooo complicated. I’ve tried educating myself about it and it’s an extremely sensitive situation. Nonetheless, the people of Palestine shouldn’t be oppressed. dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 There are Jews who misunderstand any somewhat harsher criticism of Netanyahu or Israel's right-wing conservative government / settlement policy as anti-Semitic, and there are anti-Zionist Jews who even play down open anti-Semitism / anti-Zionism or, for example, confuse it with anti-nationalism. And paradoxically, there are also anti-Semitic Jews, such as Gilad Atzmon. Neither the anti-Israel propaganda that is spreading around the Internet seems to be helpful to me, nor the reflexive criticism of any criticism that concerns the politics of Israel, ugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 There simply should be a 2 states solution. Israel's government right now is not the best, but at the same time Israel has agreed MULTIPLE times for a 2 states solution that was refused by Hamas which is a terrorist state that won't make the good decisions for the Palestinian people. They won't see any way out the conflict with Israel still here. They are against the very existence of Israel. the situation is sad because Palestinian are the first victims of Hamas, and Hamas does a great job at manipulating people into thinking Israel is the one responsible for this situation. Problem is that it's hard to get rid of Hamas knowing that democracy isn't working the best in Palestine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sherry1411 said: I didn't said it's wrong to kill anyone including Jews. You should read I explained it later. yes but saying they're being chased of other countries for a reason is the very same argument that was used against them whenever they were exterminated in history Jews, by their numeral minority have always been great targets for fascist movements to gain power by pointing them at the roots of their countries problem You stating that they're being chased of muslim countries for a reason is you buying into those very frightening ideologies that has led to so many catastrophes in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said: yes but saying they're being chased of other countries for a reason is the very same argument that was used against them whenever they were exterminated in history Jews, by their numeral minority have always been great targets for fascist movements to gain power by pointing them at the roots of their countries problem You stating that they're being chased of muslim countries for a reason is you buying into those very frightening ideologies that has led to so many catastrophes in the past Please go back a couple of pages. I wrote that only the people that were part of the agendas against muslims were exiled. That's all Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, affection said: What’s that ? A picture from google where Palestine is written over it ? Is this your counter argument ? Where does this picture show the proof of a Palestinian state. Do you care to put this picture in any context ? Idk. Google it. You're just wrong. Either way you slice it, this is an issue that has a lot of nuance to it and the broad and general statements you are making is extremely egregious. At the end of the day, the United States needs to stop playing favorites with Israel and be a facilitator (IF ANYTHING AT ALL) between Israel & Palestine. The Palestinian people are human beings just as the Jewish people are. As a matter of foreign policy, what people do or what they believe does not determine how horrible we can be to them in return without any sort of justification. The Palestinians should be treated with human decency & Israel should be reprimanded as well as the US for their role is this. This does not mean being anti-Israel. It simply means that Israel doesn't get to be propped up by US assisted imperialism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sherry1411 said: Please go back a couple of pages. I wrote that only the people that were part of the agendas against muslims were exiled. That's all but that's not true Yemen has been expelling jews from their country since last month. And I'm talking about Yemini jews that were born and raised there and this has been going on for ages everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, affection said: 1.) they bought most of the land from Palestinians 2.) people were killed on both sides during war 3.)Palestinians never once had their own country. They didn’t take away anything. In fact, for the first time in history they were given the opportunity to create their own country Palestine was a country and it owned the land where Israel is now. Educate yourself because by sharing stuff like this you end up looking uneducated or just plain ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,249 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Let me tell u something no Christian country or leader would allow Jerusalem being under a muslim country. You wonder why nobody’s doing something to Palestine? Ask your leaders, they hates them and see them as aN annoying problem that needs to be solved, especially the governments from the Arabic/muslim countries, they only uses them to trash Israel/US but does nothing to help them. u can blame Israhell all u want but it’s just a small player in a big game with much bigger players, Israhell is only a US military base at the end. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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