Melech 9,900 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, coolninjaguy said: ignore her she drinks These are the kind of people who make the conflict worse cause they fail to see both sides. Palestine won’t be ultimately free when antisemitism isn’t removed (as well as arabphobia in Israel) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 It really is telling how a post about an issue at google regarding Palestine has turned to Israel bashing, bashing of Jewish people in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 @coolninjaguy @Melech All I want to say is that Jews and Muslims can live together peacefully. But they're not. Israel didn't only try to take Palestine but Morocco too. So the problem is coming from them. In no way I'm trying to offend any jew or Israeli citizen. If Palestine accepted Jews in a time when no one else did, they must not take advantage of that situation. Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Melech said: These are the kind of people who make the conflict worse cause they fail to see both sides. Palestine won’t be ultimately free when antisemitism isn’t removed (as well as arabphobia in Israel) i honestly have nothing against jews. you can also look at my original post in this thread where i posted about how coexistence would be a great solution if everyone cooperates. if i (and millions around the globe in multicultural countries) can coexist with people of different races/religions i don't see how this could be a problem. obviously there are bad apples on both sides that don't want this to happen and have their own personal agendas at the expense of the hundreds of thousands dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Sherry1411 said: If the Jews wanted they could've lived in peace with the Muslims like everywhere else in the world. But no they wanted to rule and play kingdom. May I remind you of how many innocent lives the Israeli Government has taken? How many homes they've destroyed? How many women they have raped? I have receipts. Don't use this hundred year excuse for the crimes your army and your government has committed. Jewish people fled to the region of Palestine(Remember it was a region, never once a sovereign country). They fled because six million in Europe were getting killed and the Muslim states followed suit. In the Jews were not living in peace at that time anywhere in the world. Even today you could argue that outside of Israel there is no real safe space for the Jewish people. Most of the land was BOUGHT off from Palestinians. Palestine at that time wasn’t a particularly populated land and the people living there did not really define themselves as Palestinian, rather as Lebanese, Syrian, Egypt, so on. After Jewish mass emigration conflicts started to form. ALOT of innocent lives were lost on both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Just now, affection said: Jewish people fled to the region of Palestine(Remember it was a region, never once a sovereign country). They fled because six million in Europe were getting killed and the Muslim states followed suit. In the Jews were not living in peace at that time anywhere in the world. Even today you could argue that outside of Israel there is no real safe space for the Jewish people. Most of the land was BOUGHT off from Palestinians. Palestine at that time wasn’t a particularly populated land and the people living there did not really define themselves as Palestinian, rather as Lebanese, Syrian, Egypt, so on. After Jewish mass emigration conflicts started to form. ALOT of innocent lives were lost on both sides. I know and I agree with you. That is what I'm trying to say. The part where I disagree with is that the Jews should not have taken advantage of the situation and attacked the innocent people already living there that's all. Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: i honestly have nothing against jews. you can also look at my original post in this thread where i posted about how coexistence would be a great solution if everyone cooperates. if i (and millions around the globe in multicultural countries) can coexist with people of different races/religions i don't see how this could be a problem. obviously there are bad apples on both sides that don't want this to happen and have their own personal agendas at the expense of the hundreds of thousands dead. 100% agreed Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 hours ago, coolninjaguy said: i am muslim and pro-palestine tho... did you even read the entire thing or just read the first paragraph (the premise) and just say that. its quite privileged for us as outsiders to preach anything but coexistence between the two because look at what that has done for the past several decades. we know humans can coexist as seen in the west and elsewhere and we know that israel would never just hand over the land to palestinians so do you just want the bloodshed to continue because thats an irrational emotion-driven mindset. The people of Palestine had more than once the opportunity to build their Owen sovereign state. Something that never even existed. They decided to stay in a situation of war and terror, otherwise they would not be able to even fund their own state. It is their only working model at the moment. No place has an NGO density like Palestine and so much support from Arab countries to stay in a conflict with Israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, affection said: Jewish people fled to the region of Palestine(Remember it was a region, never once a sovereign country). They fled because six million in Europe were getting killed and the Muslim states followed suit. In the Jews were not living in peace at that time anywhere in the world. Even today you could argue that outside of Israel there is no real safe space for the Jewish people. Most of the land was BOUGHT off from Palestinians. Palestine at that time wasn’t a particularly populated land and the people living there did not really define themselves as Palestinian, rather as Lebanese, Syrian, Egypt, so on. After Jewish mass emigration conflicts started to form. ALOT of innocent lives were lost on both sides. did you also learn how Israel has murdered more Palestinians JUST in Gaza over 50 days than the total number of israelis killed by Palestinians over the past 30 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolninjaguy 1,239 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, affection said: The people of Palestine had more than once the opportunity to build their Owen sovereign state. Something that never even existed. They decided to stay in a situation of war and terror, otherwise they would not be able to even fund their own state. It is their only working model at the moment. No place has an NGO density like Palestine and so much support from Arab countries to stay in a conflict with Israel. oh so just like how Israel has been annexing land and is trying to steal their settlements in the West Bank again for the 5000x time LOL i won't even entertain clowns with a proper write up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: did you also learn how Israel has murdered more Palestinians JUST in Gaza over 50 days than the total number of israelis killed by Palestinians over the past 30 years? Im happy to see those sources of those particular numbers you’re talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, coolninjaguy said: oh so just like how Israel has been annexing land and is trying to steal their settlements in the West Bank again for the 5000x time LOL i won't even entertain clowns with a proper write up. Oh no. No need to get personal. Keep it in line if you are interested in having a proper argument. Israel is indeed trying to annex land, no denying in that. You could argue now from a law or ethical perspective if it is ok or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with stealing though. These are very common war practices. Happens all the time. Just like my country Germany was annexed at a time we we‘re terrorizing our neighbors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, affection said: Im happy to see those sources of those particular numbers you’re talking about. 1. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/israel-army-admits-mistakes-attack-killed-gaza-family-191225055110577.html&ved=2ahUKEwjanvPZ3NvqAhWRnxQKHf3oBvoQFjAMegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw3I6MGPbrFSxiioELTUlgFc&cf=1 2. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200716-remembering-israels-killing-of-four-children-on-the-beach-in-gaza/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjanvPZ3NvqAhWRnxQKHf3oBvoQFjAQegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1oxdZvLf60A8J_cmuOqPVK&cf=1 3. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/02/04/gaza-apparently-unlawful-israeli-strikes-kill-least-11-civilians&ved=2ahUKEwjanvPZ3NvqAhWRnxQKHf3oBvoQFjASegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3cnyX-3nzktRBa1pzch4r2 Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adorno 484 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Sherry1411 said: There is only one side and that is jews oppressing muslims. Stop this bs. Stop covering up lies and the oppression.(...). Jews are doing fine in Muslim countries and if you don't agree with that, bring receipts. Because I have many where Muslims are being beaten, shot to death, women raped, children taken away etc. You can’t be serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry 4,715 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, affection said: Oh no. No need to get personal. Keep it in line if you are interested in having a proper argument. Israel is indeed trying to annex land, no denying in that. You could argue now from a law or ethical perspective if it is ok or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with stealing though. These are very common war practices. Happens all the time. Just like my country Germany was annexed at a time we we‘re terrorizing our neighbors. So according to you it's okay to annex land. Love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs 🥚 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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