GagalooBoo 10 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, Manic said: This is literally impossible. You really wanna say albanians existed once upon a time in all these countries BEFORE THEIR OWN PEOPLE and then they all decided to kill them off? Please. Albanians are trying so hard to change the history it's so silly. I see you made you account 30 minutes ago to come here and spread your nationalistic propaganda and Serb hating like what it's usually seen from Albanians. Yes, I did open a account. I’m a Gaga fan but opened an account because of the stupid stuff you and that other account FameMonster was talking about. I’m not saying they existed before everyone, all I’m saying they existed way before Serbs who happen to come to the Balkans around 7th and 8th century and in Kosovo around 13th century and killing everyone if they didn’t convert and learn their language, culture and religion. Kinda the same thing West Europeans did when they got to America. I see you have nothing to say to what I said and clearly you agree to support the killing Albanian people suffered for years. You’re a Serb so I’m not expecting any better honestly. But I’m so glad Kosovo is independent and its population is free because again if it was up to people like you or your people they would have been gone long time ago. I’m disgusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierS 9 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 2:24 PM, FameMonster01 said: Previously I said semi-independent because Kosovo right now IS semi-independent. It's not recognized by all UN states, only by around 55%. Well it's not the end of the world but she is encouraging young Albanians and fueling nationalism even more... Like... Should the most famous singer in my country share pictures of what used to be Croatia??? No she shouldn't because it's in the past, those territories may have belong to your country, but now they are NOT. So stop trying to reminiscing about that,as you weren't even born back then. Accept the things they are now, just like I accept that Kosovo is on it's way to be fully independent I wasnt born back then, but i was born when my mother got killed, i was born when my two sisters got raped in front of my brother and then all killed together! The Sllobodan Milloshevic regime killed all my family, and still i dont have a right to be a free, indipendet country?! Are u even serious?! How come to you is so important when Dua shares an image of what Albania used to be, when she has no political power, over such things, no decision making power, meanwhile nowdays Aleksander Vucic Minister of Information under the Slobodan Miloshevic administration, still keeps repeating that there was no genocid in Kosovo, that Albanis are people that came from mountains and should be treated as such, and i dont see this reaction towards his way of speaking and decision making! If there is anyone out there fueling nacionalism is Vuçic and thats the one you should be worried about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic 101 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, GagalooBoo said: Yes, I did open a account. I’m a Gaga fan but opened an account because of the stupid stuff you and that other account FameMonster was talking about. I’m not saying they existed before everyone, all I’m saying they existed way before Serbs who happen to come to the Balkans around 7th and 8th century and in Kosovo around 13th century and killing everyone if they didn’t convert and learn their language, culture and religion. Kinda the same thing West Europeans did when they got to America. I see you have nothing to say to what I said and clearly you agree to support the killing the Albanian people suffered for years. You’re a Serb so I’m not expecting any better honestly. You're being very inconsistent in your claims. And no, there is not even an ounce of sane truth in your post. Serbian people are definitely way older than Albanians. You don't get to just change it to your liking. Serbian people have existed BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Serbia#Prehistory And I'm not a Serb. Interesting how you keep clutching at Serbia only tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierS 9 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Manic said: You're being very inconsistent in your claims. And no, there is not even an ounce of sane truth in your post. Serbian people are definitely way older than Albanians. You don't get to just change it to your liking. Serbian people have existed BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Serbia#Prehistory And I'm not a Serb. Interesting how you keep clutching at Serbia only tho. Looking that a soursce like wikipedia is brought into the table, even though i guess we all agree that its accuracy is debatable i guess, here’s another link for Albania from wilipedia, that still claims that Albanians were there long before Slavs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Albania #preHistory so I suggest now you address your concerns towards wikipedia, so they make up their mind whats true, and whats not, so for your next replies we all avoid confusion, cause i guess same source cant come with 2 versions! peace&love stream Chromatica 🙌🙌 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagalooBoo 10 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Manic said: You're being very inconsistent in your claims. And no, there is not even an ounce of sane truth in your post. Serbian people are definitely way older than Albanians. You don't get to just change it to your liking. Serbian people have existed BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Serbia#Prehistory And I'm not a Serb. Interesting how you keep clutching at Serbia only tho. It’s a proven fact Serbs moved to the Balkans only after 7th century. No one is saying they started existing from that century. They started coming to the Balkans only after 7th century from the Carpathian Mountains. Who cares if they came, it’s how they came and what they did to native people in Balkans. I’m clutching at Serbia because that’s what they did. They should own it, but they don’t. Albanians never ever had any support till 1999 when NATO bombed Serbia (they deserved by the way) because that’s what you get when you kill innocent people, rape women and do all the inhuman stuff you seem to support and don’t stop when others tell you to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos 3,199 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Well, deleting all songs from Dua Lipa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic 101 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, XavierS said: Looking that a soursce like wikipedia is brought into the table, even though i guess we all agree that its accuracy is debatable i guess, here’s another link for Albania from wilipedia, that still claims that Albanians were there long before Slavs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Albania #preHistory so I suggest now you address your concerns towards wikipedia, so they make up their mind whats true, and whats not, so for your next replies we all avoid confusion, cause i guess same source cant come with 2 versions! peace&love stream Chromatica 🙌🙌 Sure if you believe the theory that illyrian and greek tribes were albanians. which is super debatable. first albanians as such appeared in the 11 c in history, while their langauge was first recorded in the 15th c. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagalooBoo 10 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Manic said: Sure if you believe the theory that illyrian and greek tribes were albanians. which is super debatable. first albanians as such appeared in the 11 c in history, while their langauge was first recorded in the 15th c. And you’re telling me you’re not a Serb lmao. It used to be debatable when Albanians were under you, because that’s what Serbs tried to do. Either deny that or claim Albanians as Turks and non sense like that, but not any more. Most of the historians agree that Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians, and there’s literally no proofs that Albanians came from somewhere else. Hope one day you see the light and you stop spreading Russian/Serbian propaganda cause it really worked for you guys, but not anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic 101 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, GagalooBoo said: And you’re telling me you’re not a Serb lmao. It used to be debatable when Albanians were under you, because that’s what Serbs tried to do. Either deny that or claim Albanians as Turks and non sense like that, but not any more. Most of the historians agree that Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians, and there’s literally no proofs that Albanians came from somewhere else. Hope one day you see the light and you stop spreading Russian/Serbian propaganda cause it really worked for you guys, but not anymore. whatever makes you sleep at night sweetie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagalooBoo 10 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Manic said: whatever makes you sleep at night sweetie After everything I said, I expected a reply like this one haha 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagalooBoo 10 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Manic said: You're being very inconsistent in your claims. And no, there is not even an ounce of sane truth in your post. Serbian people are definitely way older than Albanians. You don't get to just change it to your liking. Serbian people have existed BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Serbia#Prehistory And I'm not a Serb. Interesting how you keep clutching at Serbia only tho. And that’s History in Serbia’s territory, not Slavs (Serbians in this point) , everyone knows they came there after 7th century. Nice try tho 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Manic said: You're being very inconsistent in your claims. And no, there is not even an ounce of sane truth in your post. Serbian people are definitely way older than Albanians. You don't get to just change it to your liking. Serbian people have existed BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Serbia#Prehistory And I'm not a Serb. Interesting how you keep clutching at Serbia only tho. You shouldn't try to prove that to someone who thinks that Nis was populated by Albanians in a great deal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMonster01 7,071 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, GagalooBoo said: Because she doesn’t need to apologize. Read the whole forum and I can see you’re obsessed with bashing her and Albanians. If you never lived in Kosovo and what Albanian people been through under Serbs, I can guarantee you wouldn’t be talking anything. There’s literally nothing wrong with the map. She just posted a map of ethnic Albania where Albanians are autochthonous and been there for the longest, this map is more of “stop killing us, cause we been here before you” She... does tho? This map is used to represent claims of greater Albania, a fascist idea that also promotes irredentism, what's not clicking? Any type of irredentism is wrong because if pursued, it can lead to conflicts and even wars. Serbs have also been a long time in Montenegro and Bosnia, should their singers also post pictures of Greater Serbia and claim their parts? It's silly. Also, there are other ways to celebrate and being proud of being Albanian, like sharing your folk music, promoting Albanian culture etc etc, not using a map used by nationalists to hate. I think her intentions were good, but she chose the wrong picture Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierS 9 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Manic said: Sure if you believe the theory that illyrian and greek tribes were albanians. which is super debatable. first albanians as such appeared in the 11 c in history, while their langauge was first recorded in the 15th c. Whatever you say at this point, cause i cant keep discussing with someone that brings ‘wikipedia’ as reference for historical facts, preaching it, and when wikipedia says otherwise in another article, tries to allude about it. Its simple, a source either can be trusted or not, it’s not about what you wish. i rest my case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 349 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I read the thread: Why using history and nations to put other nations down ? And why you think other nations are worthless in comparison to you or your nation. A world with different cultures and religions is beautiful but it shouldn't be so ego-based. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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