Charts Discussion

[Hurem 17,800]

21 minutes ago, Freddy said:

Shallow #94 

 

[PopRoyalty 180]

Time for a third single. 

[JustJames 968]

3 hours ago, Genuine Guy 09 said:

No song that debuts like ROM, on top of a 12 percent burnout is likely to get kept on a radio format. Radio drop it organically. 10 days Before 'My Future' debut ROM was receiving -0.4 updates on pop  it happened to other pop girls like Katy. I told everyone on this thread multiple times that it was getting dropped by big stations two weeks before callouts

No label wants their artist to flop, they want the best. You can't push a song radio doesn't want and you can't keep a song high on a playlist if the curators don't want (that's more a grey area)

In terms of this album, the only hope is to focus on the hit, ROM, and do a Sc MV to give that a boost. SL will not be getting anywhere near 500m streams. 

This doesn't add up; a song w/ a Top 10 debut on Spotify in '20, #1 debut on BB100 without a Radio deal or signed bundles, etc., and WW receipts does not meet any loose definition of a "flop." Gaga isn't some indie artist or semi-indie act like Halsey; she's an established WW star and major cash-cow for Interscope. A successful song in '20 helps Gaga and Interscope in the short-term, but also long-term as she needs a diverse catalogue of hits to consistently tour, make contracts, support her Residency, etc. Gaga's first 3 albums were nom'd for AOTY Grammys, and she won 5 awards in the last 2 ceremonies. Heavily awarded artists is a major deal for labels, and after earning her highest acclaim to-date, Chromatica was seen as a threat for AOTY/ROTY/Pop during release week. 

It's nonsense to pretend audience surveys force labels to call up Radio and ask 'Stop playing that #1 song by Gaga. It's making us look bad!' Take a look at big station Playlists and make a graph to correlate callouts if you feel so strongly about the relationship. It isn't there. ROM was a highly requested #1 by 2 superstars, with metrics on every other platform / WW pointing to a hit in need of MORE support, not less. Who cares if updates were negative? "Intentions" had bad callouts and hit #1 w/ negative updates that continued as it stayed Top 10 week after week. Interscope had every incentive to keep ROM on BB100 as long as possible, especially w/ a VMA perf coming and Gaga's history in impacting Charts. A song w/ minimal bleeding on Radio, hovering in the 20s / 30s until would've given it Sales, Certs, Press, a narrative for Grammy campaigning, etc. Having it free-fall out of existence right before the 1st big promo event of the album cycle? Suicidal. 

SOUR CANDY/NEXT SONG PUSH

For the love of God, Sour Candy is NOT a smart move for Gaga / Interscope. It did its job by boosting album week streams, sales, and filling in as a pseudo promo single. If an MV existed, it would've been released by now and yes, it would've elevated streams for a few weeks, but they would've faded just as they have. If another song is pushed from Chromatica, it'll be a solo 1, not a half-Korean song already streamed to death by the fans who'd even be interested in it. Sour Candy is not going to give Chromatica longevity, sell tour tickets, enhance Enigma's next leg, or propel the LG brand. Is that still possible if ROM is out of BB100 by the VMAs? I don't know. But, they're NOT going to waste effort on a song that's been milked for a #33 / whose base is awaiting BLACKPINK's album.

ROM (still Top 40) +Babylon/Free Woman/Replay would've been the best move, and probably still is, even if ROM is DOA. She needs to get SOME awareness out there of her solo music. Free Woman (VMAs > Lyric/MV > Push to Radio > Accoustic Remix) rising to 350-450k/day for 2 weeks before falling to 200-250k, is still an incremental boost to album streams and sales not there right now. And, Free Woman will get views from the live show, archived videos, downloads, playlisting, and minimal Radio exposure whether it ends up Charting or not.

[TheArcher 1,132]

7 hours ago, Genuine Guy 09 said:

 Are we supposed to be impressed  More Anglo receipts from a Taylor 'stan' 

The mind boggles as to why a pressed stan of one of Gaga's old peers is allowed to hide behind Taylor and post things like this in the GGD charts thread,

OT:

Folklore isn't holding well on Spotify WW. At this same point, Chromatica was only 2m daily streams behind it Yes Gaga, Yes another global hit outside of easier territories like Australia

folklores third week so far

1. US
1. UK
1. Ireland
1. Canada
1. Australia
1. New Zealand
2. Belgium
2. Netherlands
5. Germany
5. Norway

Folklore will eventually outsell Chromatica in most of major markets. And streaming is doing good with barely playlisting and one single. 

24x days at #1 on Global Apple Music and Global iTunes. 

[Adelita 3,177]

13 minutes ago, TheArcher said:

folklores third week so far

1. US
1. UK
1. Ireland
1. Canada
1. Australia
1. New Zealand
2. Belgium
2. Netherlands
5. Germany
5. Norway

Folklore will eventually outsell Chromatica in most of major markets. And streaming is doing good with barely playlisting and one single. 

24x days at #1 on Global Apple Music and Global iTunes. 

Nobody cares, this is not a Taylor Swift forum, get real.

[Hurem 17,800]

19 minutes ago, TheArcher said:

folklores third week so far

1. US
1. UK
1. Ireland
1. Canada
1. Australia
1. New Zealand
2. Belgium
2. Netherlands
5. Germany
5. Norway

Folklore will eventually outsell Chromatica in most of major markets. And streaming is doing good with barely playlisting and one single. 

24x days at #1 on Global Apple Music and Global iTunes. 

Taylor’s killing the game with folk album  

[Miel 15,009]

hi i haven't been on here in like two months lmao how do we think Smile is gonna do/is doing

[TheArcher 1,132]

7 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Taylor’s killing the game with folk album  

The album deserves lover's promo 😔

[TheArcher 1,132]

Billboard 200 Albums Chart 

1. #folklore (=) — 3 Weeks 

39. Lover (-2) — 51 Weeks 

92. 1989 (-5) — 296 Weeks 

182. reputation (-27) — 125 Weeks 

199. RED (-30) — 160 Weeks

[hankhatesyouall 2,731]

4 hours ago, Hurem said:

Taylor’s killing the game with folk album  

It is produced by Jack Antonoff. It is as much a folk album as Joanne is country
 

4 hours ago, TheArcher said:

Folklore will eventually outsell Chromatica in most of major markets. And streaming is doing good with barely playlisting and one single. 

 

That single is serving TROLLZ's chart run in the U.S., and it was an absolute bomb in all major world markets. 

UK: 6 - 14- 24 
Germany: 67 - 92 

Anyway, I have no idea why you are trying to hide behind Taylor receipts on a Gaga forum.  

[Levine 23,579]

44 minutes ago, hankhatesyouall said:

 

That single is serving TROLLZ's chart run in the U.S., and it was an absolute bomb in all major world markets. 

UK: 6 - 14- 24 
Germany: 67 - 92 

 

Italy: OUT - OUT - OUT 

[Levine 23,579]

16 hours ago, n1kos said:

Spotify Global 

#20 Midnight sky

#27 Rain on me

#30 Break my heart 

#39 Future 

#40 Cardigan 

Global On Me holding well despite being the oldest single among those

[BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454]

5 hours ago, TheArcher said:

folklores third week so far

1. US
1. UK
1. Ireland
1. Canada
1. Australia
1. New Zealand
2. Belgium
2. Netherlands
5. Germany
5. Norway

Folklore will eventually outsell Chromatica in most of major markets. And streaming is doing good with barely playlisting and one single. 

24x days at #1 on Global Apple Music and Global iTunes. 

I don’t wanna sound mean but it’s been feeling like you’re constantly dragging Gaga, in a passive aggressive way, I don’t want you to get in trouble, so please try not to break any guidelines, have a nice day.

[Gagalvaro 2,498]

ASIB is going to be released in Netflix Spain on September 8th. Expect a big boost cause Netflix is so popular here and maybe a new lockdown will happen again so people will stay more time at home

[JudasJustDance 1,621]