Charts Discussion

[IAmNotHere1997 25,824]

3 hours ago, Whtvrman said:

Perhaps. But it was also what killed her chances of scoring a pop radio hit ever again so yeah.

Who cares? Pop radio won't play you forever anyway. They're always about what's hot, fresh, now, young, Gaga left that field a long time ago. Name me some artists that managed to have long, impressive careers by playing pop radio's game every era.

[MANiCURE1295 8,673]

1 minute ago, gabrielflorin01 said:

Who cares? Pop radio won't play you forever anyway. They're always about what's hot, fresh, now, young, Gaga left that field a long time ago. Name me some artists that managed to have long, impressive careers by playing pop radio's game every era.

Yeah people here need to realize she's 30+ year old female competing for pop radio airplay, we should honestly be lucky that ROM even went top 10 on pop radio, it was her best performance on that chart in the last like 8 years.

I'll say it again, if we didn't get a radio smash with ROM w/Ariana it just ain't ever gonna happen again. Some people here still haven't adjusted their expectations and they still expect the same radio airplay from 2009-2011, it's a different time. Look at Katy, one of the biggest radio artists of the 2010's not even being able to go like top 65 on radio. We could honestly have it way worse  

[Carre 13,248]

Joanne

Diamond Heart - 42,840,116 (+525,464)

A-YO - 65,652,825 (+656,898) 

Joanne - 57,013,257 (+747,660) 

John Wayne - 76,395,747 (+967,993)

Dancin' In Circles - 44,067,841 (+519,290)

Perfect Illusion - 163,994,547 (+1,480,114)

Million Reasons - 459,758,367 (+7,075,859)

Sinner's Prayer - 31,505,965 (+272,172) 

Come to Mama - 26,568,061 (+218,861) 

Hey Girl - 32,666,992 (+321,776) 

Angel Down - 26,068,536 (+241,667)  

Grigio Girls - 26,570,957 (+235,372) 

Just Another Day - 21,792,483 (+185,291) 

Angel Down (Work Tape) - 16,491,660 (+142,284)  

Total: 1,091,387,354 (+13,590,701)

[monketsharona 86,175]

TFM should pass the total streams of Joanne later this month

[wrs 567]

Billie Eilish (32 awards) and Lady Gaga (29 awards) are the most awarded female artists so far in 2020.

[Carre 13,248]

A Star Is Born

Black Eyes - 57,754,285 (+965,281)

La Vie En Rose - 49,156,092 (+905,839)

Maybe It's Time - 90,638,649 (+1,886,966)

Out Of Time - 46,312,707 (+706,465)

Alibi - 45,674,449 (+756,035)

Shallow - 1,207,921,656 (+31,146,237)

Music To My Eyes - 88,189,444 (+1,353,906) 

Diggin' My Grave - 60,670,482 (+892,228) 

Always Remember Us This Way - 464,589,669 (+13,286,885)

Look What I Found - 101,265,128 (+1,712,442) 

Heal Me - 60,465,568 (+1,025,285) 

I Don't Know What Love Is - 66,979,792 (+1,286,226) 

Is That Alright? - 82,496,469 (+1,569,863) 

Why Did You Do That - 48,348,815 (+683,304)  

Hair Body Face - 35,946,013 (+487,422) 

Before I Cry - 39,741,453 (+596,526)

Too Far Gone - 35,657,012 (+569,001) 

I'll Never Love Again (Film Version) - 194,632,351 (+4,602,764) 

I'll Never Love Again (Extended) - 113,188,242 (+3,152,398) 

Dialogues

Intro - 27,177 (+252)

Somewhere Over the Rainbow - 16,956,013 (+322,429)

Fabulous French - 16,676 (+112) 

I'll Wait for You - 19,737 (+121)

Parking Lot - 16,581,607 (+286,937)

Trust Me - 13,298,732 (+227,758)

First Stop, Arizona - 1,775 (+67)

I Love You - 34,668 (+193)

Unbelievable - 57,757 (+757)

How Do You Hear It? - 3,503 (+71) 

Memphis - 27,155 (+175)

Vows - 18,920 (+75)

SNL - 3,016 (+49)

Scene 98 - 9,904,779 (+170,609)

Twelve Notes - 9,822,143 (+167,451)

Total: 2,956,401,934 (+68,762,129)

[Smithy 2,596]

1 hour ago, wrs said:

Why this underperformed so hard in comparison with the other songs of The Fame?

I think it’s only available in Japan 

[wrs 567]

Just now, Smithy said:

I think it’s only available in Japan 

Thank you, my dear. 

[Carre 13,248]

Chromatica

Chromatica I - 14,760,032 (+2,573,206)

Alice - 26,673,264 (+5,840,666)

Stupid Love - 164,993,527 (+15,423,947)

Rain On Me - 261,527,961 (+84,173,881)

Free Woman - 26,313,505 (+6,516,318)

Fun Tonight - 19,685,828 (+3,989,606)

Chromatica II - 18,384,226 (+3,791,749)

911 - 28,813,238 (+6,677,905)

Plastic Doll - 18,518,534 (+3,730,708)

Sour Candy - 104,429,297 (+26,836,742)

Enigma - 19,427,216 (+4,015,611)

Replay - 19,801,134 (+4,357,418)

Chromatica III - 27,227 (+4,016) 

Sine from Above - 20,008,222 (+4,254,747)

1000 Doves - 15,809,671 (+3,311,764)

Babylon - 18,715,564 (+4,192,905)

Total: 777,888,446 (+179,663,962)

[Carre 13,248]

A Star Is Born - 2,956,401,934

The Fame - 1,240,229,798

Joanne - 1,091,387,354

The Fame Monster - 1,086,572,516

Born This Way - 812,832,105

Chromatica - 777,888,446

ARTPOP - 687,201,729

Cheek To Cheek - 99,459,732

Total (+Other releases): 8,829,433,192 (+419,798,110)

[Leoj305 3,717]

Chromatica coming for her 2nd most streamed album ever! Totally deserving. 

[monketsharona 86,175]

Impressed how much TF and TFM (8 tracks) are still winning in 2020 while being relesed far before the streaming era

[Doncho 27,241]

50 minutes ago, Carre said:

A Star Is Born - 2,956,401,934

The Fame - 1,240,229,798

Joanne - 1,091,387,354

The Fame Monster - 1,086,572,516

Born This Way - 812,832,105

Chromatica - 777,888,446

ARTPOP - 687,201,729

Cheek To Cheek - 99,459,732

Total (+Other releases): 8,829,433,192 (+419,798,110)

Thank u so much for this! I am always excited for the 1st day of each month just for your posts 

[JustJames 1,053]

1 hour ago, MANiCURE1295 said:

Yeah people here need to realize she's 30+ year old female competing for pop radio airplay, we should honestly be lucky that ROM even went top 10 on pop radio, it was her best performance on that chart in the last like 8 years.

Some people here still haven't adjusted their expectations and they still expect the same radio airplay from 2009-2011, it's a different time. Look at Katy, one of the biggest radio artists of the 2010's not even being able to go like top 65 on radio.

This recurrent theme of "adjusting expectations" with regards to Gaga and Chromatica's performance is not only misguided, but also actually undermines Gaga's demand as a celebrity and Chromatica's debut performance numbers. Lady Gaga is a WW superstar, whose latest project was released to: #5 lead single, #1 second single, #1 album, Top 10 debut on Spotify, 79 MC (highest yet), ~300k sales in a pandemic, and both singles eventually reached #11 / #9 on US Pop Radio. 

Any time we criticize her or her team for the trajectory since, there is always an excuse: "she's streaming poison!" or "COVID impacted her promo efforts!" or "promo is dead / has no impact in 2020!" or "Pop Radio doesn't play 30-year old Pop acts!" NONE of these hold any water, and constantly bringing up other artists to justify them does the exact opposite.

Why do "we" need to adjust any expectations out of Lady Gaga, Interscope, or Chromatica based on anything related to Katy Perry? Gaga released the lead single for Chromatica at age 33, 1 year after 'Shallow', the most-awarded song in history, hit #1 on the Hot 100 during the ASIB era which enabled her to reach a new level of WW success.
1. Katy was ~33 years old when she released 'Chained To The Rhythm' in 2017, ~3 years after her last hit; it reached #4 on the Hot 100, Charted for 15 weeks, and was a Top 10 on US Pop/BB Radio Songs. 
2. Katy was ~35 years old when 'Con Calm,' 'Never Really Over', and 'Feels' were released in 2019, after Witness underwhelmed in 2017 and during a period of unattached singles; all 3 reached the Top 20 of BB Radio Songs; NRO reached #15 on the Hot 100 (12 wks total).
3. Katy was ~36 years old when she released 'Daisies' in 2020, now 6+ years out from her last successful era and a series of "flops;" it peaked at #40 on the BB Hot 100 (7 wks total; possibly 8 after the album drops). 

All this tells me is that despite a huge drop in demand, based on many factors including the underperformance of both her last true era and this latest series of singles, Katy and her label have been able to pivot and adjust their strategies to ensure that many of her songs end up with moderate levels of long-term success. 'Daisies' had mediocre performance across all channels, yet spent just 2 fewer weeks on the Hot 100 than 'Stupid Love' did with the ASIB hype, a massive MV (in comparison to 'Daisies' views), #11 Pop Radio peak, etc. Regardless of the fact that Katy still achieved respectable Radio peaks well into her 30s (top 20 peaks for nearly 10 songs since turning 30), who cares when she and her team focused on other promo tactics so that a drop in audience impressions over a week didn't equal a disaster?  

At the end of the day, we are only talking about Pop Radio right now because it is literally the last metric that was holding Rain On Me above water; if Katy's team had a debut like ROM, you can bet it would've been inescapable. We have already gone through the "well, she's streaming poison!" period of defense for ROM, despite Chromatica having a debut week on par with all current streaming-era artists. We have already gone the "but, COVID!" period of defense, despite Dua Lipa releasing multiple promoted hits during the same timeframe. Radio is all that is left. We don't need to adjust our expectations; others need to quit the delusions. 

[Noir 17,803]

Spotify achievements today (01.08.20) : 

Shallow crosses 1.207b streams (1,207,921,656)

Bad Romance crosses 431m streams (431,047,308)

Poker Face crosses 424m streams (424,115,969)

Telephone crosses 300m streams (300,166,741)

Just Dance crosses 294m streams (294,156,276)

Rain On Me crosses 261m streams (261,527,961)

Sour Candy crosses 104m streams (104,429,297)

Joanne crosses 57m streams (57,013,257)

Sine From Above crosses 20m streams (20,008,222)

Telephone becomes the sixth Gaga track to reach 300m streams on Spotify.

Whilst Sine From Above becomes the 7th Chromatica track to surpass 20m streams. Have a great day everyone!