wrs 567 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Taylor Swift's “folklore” debuts on # 1 on the ARIA Albums Chart, and the NZ Top 40 Albums, accumulating 6 # 1s on official charts. #1 UK #1 Australia #1 Belgium (Flanders) #1 New Zealand #1 Norway #1 Ireland - The album has already passed 90 # 1s on iTunes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrs 567 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 9 hours ago, JustJames said: This recurrent theme of "adjusting expectations" with regards to Gaga and Chromatica's performance is not only misguided, but also actually undermines Gaga's demand as a celebrity and Chromatica's debut performance numbers. Lady Gaga is a WW superstar, whose latest project was released to: #5 lead single, #1 second single, #1 album, Top 10 debut on Spotify, 79 MC (highest yet), ~300k sales in a pandemic, and both singles eventually reached #11 / #9 on US Pop Radio. Any time we criticize her or her team for the trajectory since, there is always an excuse: "she's streaming poison!" or "COVID impacted her promo efforts!" or "promo is dead / has no impact in 2020!" or "Pop Radio doesn't play 30-year old Pop acts!" NONE of these hold any water, and constantly bringing up other artists to justify them does the exact opposite. Why do "we" need to adjust any expectations out of Lady Gaga, Interscope, or Chromatica based on anything related to Katy Perry? Gaga released the lead single for Chromatica at age 33, 1 year after 'Shallow', the most-awarded song in history, hit #1 on the Hot 100 during the ASIB era which enabled her to reach a new level of WW success. 1. Katy was ~33 years old when she released 'Chained To The Rhythm' in 2017, ~3 years after her last hit; it reached #4 on the Hot 100, Charted for 15 weeks, and was a Top 10 on US Pop/BB Radio Songs. 2. Katy was ~35 years old when 'Con Calm,' 'Never Really Over', and 'Feels' were released in 2019, after Witness underwhelmed in 2017 and during a period of unattached singles; all 3 reached the Top 20 of BB Radio Songs; NRO reached #15 on the Hot 100 (12 wks total). 3. Katy was ~36 years old when she released 'Daisies' in 2020, now 6+ years out from her last successful era and a series of "flops;" it peaked at #40 on the BB Hot 100 (7 wks total; possibly 8 after the album drops). All this tells me is that despite a huge drop in demand, based on many factors including the underperformance of both her last true era and this latest series of singles, Katy and her label have been able to pivot and adjust their strategies to ensure that many of her songs end up with moderate levels of long-term success. 'Daisies' had mediocre performance across all channels, yet spent just 2 fewer weeks on the Hot 100 than 'Stupid Love' did with the ASIB hype, a massive MV (in comparison to 'Daisies' views), #11 Pop Radio peak, etc. Regardless of the fact that Katy still achieved respectable Radio peaks well into her 30s (top 20 peaks for nearly 10 songs since turning 30), who cares when she and her team focused on other promo tactics so that a drop in audience impressions over a week didn't equal a disaster? At the end of the day, we are only talking about Pop Radio right now because it is literally the last metric that was holding Rain On Me above water; if Katy's team had a debut like ROM, you can bet it would've been inescapable. We have already gone through the "well, she's streaming poison!" period of defense for ROM, despite Chromatica having a debut week on par with all current streaming-era artists. We have already gone the "but, COVID!" period of defense, despite Dua Lipa releasing multiple promoted hits during the same timeframe. Radio is all that is left. We don't need to adjust our expectations; others need to quit the delusions. Honey, Feels was released during Witness era - the summer of 2017 between Bon Appetit and Swish Swish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrs 567 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 And If you want to compare Daisies and Stupid Love let's see their chart performance in the biggest music markets: Stupid Love: #7 - Australia #7 - Canada #36 - France #21 - Germany #48 - Japan #5 - UK #5 - US Commercially, the song reached number one in Scotland, Hungary and El Salvador, and achieved a top 10 placement on music charts in over 15 territories Daisies: #37 - Australia #37 - Canada didn't charted - France didn't charted - Germany didn't charted - Japan #37 - UK #40 - US Commercially, the song achieved a top 10 placement on music charts in 4 territories. @JustJames Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNotHere1997 25,824 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Romania's Airplay 100 (Official Singles Chart) #77 (+22) Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - Rain On Me *NEW PEAK* [7 weeks]. Chart-run: 84 - 98 - 89 - 85 - 82 - 99 - 77 Spins: 59 (+14 spins compared to last week) - the most spins ROM has ever received in a week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelita 3,177 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Irish Radio Airplay Chart 1. (+2) Rain On Me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 13,317 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Freddy said: Is it safe to come back to this thread after a 4 weeks break ? Are people still saying 'we need promo' 20 times a day ? Also, how can i block some users/posts? Im asking for a friend. Nope, the majority of the overly negative moaners were banned so in general it's fine now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 13,317 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 UK Spotify 01 01 Joel Corry – Head & Heart (feat. MNEK) 727,539 Those streaming numbers have me shook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 13. Rain On Me: 8.042 (-649) | 31.804 (-2.828) Not -649 spins... it better stabilize soon cause this isn't cute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiamond 6,286 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, Hurem said: 13. Rain On Me: 8.042 (-649) | 31.804 (-2.828) Not -649 spins... it better stabilize soon cause this isn't cute. its literally pulled from radio it aint gonna stabilize, les just be happy that we got #1 in 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIMe 2,000 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Hurem said: 13. Rain On Me: 8.042 (-649) | 31.804 (-2.828) Not -649 spins... it better stabilize soon cause this isn't cute. Can we just stop tracking the song? It's over, time to go back to her 2010 RedOne bops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, GreenDiamond said: its literally pulled from radio it aint gonna stabilize, les just be happy that we got #1 in 2020 Let me pray there is a radio station or two that want to play it on their own. 2 minutes ago, HIMe said: Can we just stop tracking the song? It's over, time to go back to her 2010 RedOne bops. No and no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiamond 6,286 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 14 hours ago, PerfectGUY said: just WOW The main gay bop of 2020 and someone say we have no live perfomance THIS IS WOW form start to finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrs 567 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, HIMe said: Can we just stop tracking the song? It's over, time to go back to her 2010 RedOne bops. Good titties but no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 3,857 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 21 hours ago, MANiCURE1295 said: Yeah people here need to realize she's 30+ year old female competing for pop radio airplay, we should honestly be lucky that ROM even went top 10 on pop radio, it was her best performance on that chart in the last like 8 years. I'll say it again, if we didn't get a radio smash with ROM w/Ariana it just ain't ever gonna happen again. Some people here still haven't adjusted their expectations and they still expect the same radio airplay from 2009-2011, it's a different time. Look at Katy, one of the biggest radio artists of the 2010's not even being able to go like top 65 on radio. We could honestly have it way worse I'm sure the 30+ year old thing won't affect Rihanna new material on pop airplay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArcher 1,132 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 folklore still bleeding on Spotify 😐 but doing better than lover 🧚♀️🧚♂️ Lover 8th day - 26.0 9th day - 20.7 10th day - 17.7 folklore 8th day - 29.6 9th day - 24.2 10th day -? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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