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Hoeanne

The people in here victim blaming and making excuses for an abuser while pretending to stan for an outspoken victim of abuse are disgusting.

How are the mods constantly letting this sh*t happen?

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Suuus
9 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

What? I'm literally saying that people should stop always blaming women lol

Thats weird way of saying that maybe be a little less ***ue next time because i didnt understand that that is what that comment meant

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Hurem
7 minutes ago, Hoeanne said:

The people in here victim blaming and making excuses for an abuser while pretending to stan for an outspoken victim of abuse are disgusting.

How are the mods constantly letting this sh*t happen?

We're not blaming anyone. We're just discussing if it was an actual assault or not. Because even from her wording it doesn't seem like one. 

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Sarah H

If someone is crying in pain while you're having sex with them you don't just continue.. not if you're a decent guy anyway. 

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12 minutes ago, Suuus said:

Thats weird way of saying that maybe be a little less ***ue next time because i didnt understand that that is what that comment meant

No I think u dont have reading comprehension skills thats all everyone else understood sis

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malazam

:noparty: 

I think she just doesn't know how to explain it and scared of not being believed so she feels the need to emphasize her age and his to make a narrative that explains that she was assaulted when the assault here it's what we should be talking about.

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T3ARS

I believe her and I also believe he said the N-word. 

It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences. - Audre Lorde
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PartySick
39 minutes ago, Hurem said:

I don't know if I believe it was assault, tbh. Her post is kinda weird... she straight up jumps to "I was sobbing in pain". :emma: To me it sounds more like horrible first time, rather than the assault.

He seems like a douchebag that just wanted to deflower someone, but that's far from rape/assault.

Well idk who either one of them is so I can't speak to their credibility, I just personally don't like pedophilia thrown around so easily :sweat:

I'm not sure if I believe her or not either but I don't see how it's my business regardless. I hope it all works out.

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Suuus
4 minutes ago, KanyeWest said:

No I think u dont have reading comprehension skills thats all everyone else understood sis

Im sorry i didnt mean to upset you 

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Regina George
3 hours ago, Glamourpuss said:

I feel bad for that poor girl. I think she was too naive and innocent and a very young 17. It's true that you do things thinking this is how it's supposed to be. I understand the dissociation because I've experienced it. You do freeze and disappear mentally. This was clearly a traumatic experience for her and he's an asshole for not being more sensitive. He treated her like an object and pretty much used her. A girl's first time can be very painful and to allow somebody into your body is a big deal. He took advantage of her naivety. This is why it's so important for every girl and woman to know the power of the word NO. You don't have to be a people pleaser and you're allowed to stand up for yourself. 

I’m a woman and i’m conflicted on this one. She never said no. She stayed quiet and we don’t know if he would have stopped if she said no. He was like 18-19 at a time and it’s also not that big of a age difference as she’s making it up to be. Idk. I’m really conflicted. Some guys are rough but if you don’t say no then you can’t really blame them. He didn’t rape her, he didn’t force her and she didn’t say no. 

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March34th

some of u need to realize just because someone was above the age of consent doesn't change the fact that ansel could have still been predatory.

just like a 50 year old going after someone in their late teens/early 20s is extremely predatory

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Hurem
1 minute ago, March34th said:

just like a 50 year old going after someone in their late teens/early 20s is extremely predatory

The way soon you'll have rules set of what age you're allowed to go after if you don't wanna be called a predator. :smh: Not every 50 yo going after someone younger is a predator, not every celebrity going after a non-celebrity is a predator. You really love to throw big words around, huh?

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NFRatwell

Everyone’s worrying about whether it’s illegal or whether it’s rape but if he really thought it was wrong of him to be doing it why would he do it? He just sounds like a **** based off this story. Caring more about what he wants rather than the potential laws he wouldn’t be following and backlash he knew he would get. Even if this was technically consented and legal, the fact that he knew he was causing her pain and didn’t stop just sounds gross. If this story is true I hope she gets better and I hope he isn’t that big of an asshole anymore. 

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Franch Toast

Sexual assault/rape culture exists along a spectrum and isn't usually black and white. Most sexual assaults aren't by strangers but by people whom the survivor knows. Consent can be revoked at any time. Now, we have no idea if she ever revoked consent, nor do we know if she ever actually gave consent. At best, he's an inconsiderate lover who kept on going when she was in pain and was either oblivious to her distress or simply indifferent, which makes him an asshole. At worst, she revoked consent and he kept on going, which makes it rape and makes him a rapist. We don't know all the details concerning what happened. Regardless, she's clearly traumatized by her experience. I think it's possible to show her empathy without automatically labeling him a rapist or pedophile (though he may very well be a rapist; I don't know at this point). 

Also, am I the only one who didn't know who he was and had to Google him? That makes two times for me today (I also didn't know who Katie Hopkins was.) 

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