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Should Gaga start at-home performances?


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In the covid times I don’t think performances were ever planned, Blade said a month ago that everything was happening as originally planned except for performances.  I think maybe she doesn’t feel at-home performances do justice to the Chromatica songs.  I feel if the promo restarts it will be a few light things and the two MVs that were rumored.  I think things will fizzle out.

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derpmonster
3 minutes ago, Bradley said:

I don't get how Katy's promotion could be linked to sexual harassment but it seems like you have a problem with her? Also I've seen Katy posting frequent content about BLM so I dk what is 'a whole lot' or 'sufficient' to you. Like how much is enough?

The only reason I brought that up is because you said you had respect for Katy and she was demonstrating empowerment. I'm simply pointing out that she's not exactly a beacon of empowerment or respect for the reason I mentioned. It's not a part of a person you can simply shut off and ignore. It's going to be relevant in every conversation about them.

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Bradley
9 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Ma people have literally been on the streets every single day.
She's a person. It hurts her to see it. It hurts me to see it. She won't stop until she does stuff. Sorry her "career" is not her priority 100% of the time when since 2016, she's toured almost nonstop with so many different shows and released a soundtrack and did extensive promo for that while she made and recorded Chromatica.

There's more to life than dancing to pop music with your ass out at a club. There's more to Lady Gaga than promoting music. She released the album, we can enjoy it. But 16 new tracks is not enough for some.

She hasn't put her "career on pause" before. This time it's obviously a bigger issue than she has seen in the past.

Again, why is it to you that she must be an insensitive person for talking about music or singing?

Nobody criticised BTS or Katy Perry for singing, they picked the right songs, they chose the ones that are appropriate, and they've made some groups of people happy. It wasn't problematic or controversial.

Also Joanne and A Star Is Born happened in 2016 and 2018, we're talking about a 2020 album release, this is not a period of hiatus.

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derpmonster
1 minute ago, Bradley said:

Again, why is it to you that she must be an insensitive person for talking about music or singing?

Nobody criticised BTS or Katy Perry for singing, they picked the right songs, they chose the ones that are appropriate, and they've made some groups of people happy. It wasn't problematic or controversial.

Also Joanne and A Star Is Born happened in 2016 and 2018, we're talking about a 2020 album release, this is not a period of hiatus.

Did I say one single time that it was insensitive to sing at a show? That's something you are picking up.

Have you considered, simply, she may not want to do it right now for her own sake because she doesn't feel like it, not because of how it looks?

I mentioned Joanne and ASIB to show her busy schedule. She's had Enigma since late 2018 so there's that. Very few breaks. I'm just saying this whole "she can't pause her career" thing is BS. So what if her career isn't going with full force atm?

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derpmonster
2 minutes ago, kmoment said:

Maybe we need to consider her mood as well

This. I think you said in one sentence what I spent paragraphs on.

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Bradley
3 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Are we sure she was slated to speak and perform? I do not think it was insensitive for Katy to perform but the thing is it has affected Gaga differently. She needs to find the right song to sing and maybe she doesn't even feel like singing - which would mean it has affected her badly. For LG to not want to sing, things have to be going under. It's one of the last things she'd ever give up. "I'll never write a song, won't even sing along, I'll never love again." - Like her dad possibly dying was one of the circumstances where she said she'd stop doing that.

Trust me, I wanna hear her sing too. I just think it's important to respect her choices. She doesn't owe us anything. We have the whole album to listen to, it's been less than 2 weeks.

Apologies for the implication. I'm not sure where "hating your work" comes from though. There's nothing that points to her hating her work. She has always said she's proud of everything she's done unlike Katy (who recently said she wishes she'd never do something like the Daisies MV again).

Yeah there was an official announcement that she was going to perform. No it was 'halting' not 'hating' :sweat:. I was saying she can still continue with speaking about the activism without 'halting' her work. Maybe she can take away all the comedic stuff from ChromaticaTV but some serious acoustic performances shouldn't seem insensitive. Songs like Angel Down, 1000 Doves, Born This Way have pretty positive messages.

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18 minutes ago, channel said:

No. I really hope she doesn't. Reason being - without her team to do her styling - a majority of the base and stan twitter will do nothing but drag her for how she looks. Its not about the music to a lot of them and that much is clear, and its honestly just really frustrating to watch from the sidelines.

on a side note I'm kinda living for the fact the album is serving so hard and she's just kinda released it like :staymad: I don't mind her going a few more weeks before claiming ha, its building hype

Why would her fans drag her? She gave us the best video in years and she looked so good

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derpmonster
1 minute ago, Bradley said:

Yeah there was an official announcement that she was going to perform. No it was 'halting' not 'hating' :sweat:. I was saying she can still continue with speaking about the activism without 'halting' her work. Maybe she can take away all the comedic stuff from ChromaticaTV but some serious acoustic performances shouldn't seem insensitive. Songs like Angel Down, 1000 Doves, Born This Way have pretty positive messages.

I can't read :sweat: I need sleep.

But yeah I thought Angel Down would've been appropriate to sing. But the thing is we don't know her reason for not performing. It could just be that she doesn't feel like it. And there's not much we can do about that.

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Bradley
3 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Did I say one single time that it was insensitive to sing at a show? That's something you are picking up.

Have you considered, simply, she may not want to do it right now for her own sake because she doesn't feel like it, not because of how it looks?

I mentioned Joanne and ASIB to show her busy schedule. She's had Enigma since late 2018 so there's that. Very few breaks. I'm just saying this whole "she can't pause her career" thing is BS. So what if her career isn't going with full force atm?

Apologies for misunderstanding that. In that case, then yes I guess only Gaga knows why she's not performing. If it's truly the fact that it's because she doesn't feel like doing it, then it's perfectly fine.

I was just thinking from the perspective that, nobody would've thought that a civil unrest of this magnitude would've happened on top of a pandemic in such close periods of time. We can't speak for sure that there won't be a third wave of major incident affecting the USA or the world again. The media is so influential nowadays that public figures's schedules are so easily rendered pointless when something stands in the way.

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raragaga
57 minutes ago, Bradley said:

We all know it's not her fault that there is a pandemic and civil unrest

speak for yourself :huntyga:

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gagasicebath
29 minutes ago, kmoment said:

Maybe we need to consider her mood as well

I thought about this too. We know she’s someone who cares deeply about people and who has always fought for equality. The current situation is a difficult one for everybody, let alone for those of us who have struggled or still struggle with our mental health, as we know Gaga does, perhaps she’s having a tough time right now.

Just as she put so much energy into organising the Together at Home concert, she’s clearly using her platform now to allow important BLM organisations to share their work and get their message out to her huge following. Maybe, beyond that, she’s also trying to focus on keeping herself mentally well. Self-care is so easily neglected when there are other things to focus on, but it’s so important, especially for someone who is on medication and works at her recovery and mental health every single day.

Katy felt she was right to perform, Gaga decided not to. I don’t think it’s a right or wrong decision on either part, it’s just each of them making choices that they feel are right for them.

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AsleepOnTheCeiling
1 hour ago, derpmonster said:

I wasn't gonna say this but since you brought it up, I will. Katy Perry has a sexual harassment allegation against her, a very believable one by a man who was in the Teenage Dream video. The description seemed very on-brand for her. And good on her for keeping her gig up even when she's not doing well commercially but that is why I can't associate her with respect and empowerment. She's also not saying a whole lot about any of the important issues surrounding us at this moment and that's certainly not helping with the respect thing. :shrug: You think it's evidence of resilience, I see desperation.

I don't mean to completely invalidate that man's claims, but there are some things I find questionable. Creating a story about someone like Katy based on her personality is pretty easy, so saying it sounds believable isn't that hard. Also, this man brought a friend to a party to meet her two years after she apparently initially embarrassed him. If he already knows she's "cold as ice" why would he bring a friend to meet her? Addressing that initial occurrence as well, Katy often acted like a little girl and acted like cooties are real so he could be taking her saying it's "gross" to kiss him out of context. He says the job was "confusing, assaulting, and belittling" and still interacted with her, which makes no sense. He also seems to drag his personal life into it in order to gain sympathy. He also complained that he only made $650 off of his appearance in the video, even though many models act for free in such circumstances and his compensation was more than likely specifically stated in any release he signed (which more than likely also included the right to promo in any way they saw fit, which he complains about). I'm not a mindless Katy fan at all and I don't try to initially blame the victim, but I'm not sure his intentions and story add up. 

1 hour ago, SourCandy said:

How many times will this era relaunch? :rip:

What she did for corona and what she is doing rn is so amazing, but you cant always put your career on pause. Both music and the activism can coexist at the same time

The music is there. It's on all major streaming platforms and in stores.

1 hour ago, Bradley said:

Don't bills take months or half a year to pass? I don't think she's waiting for that at all. Btw what do you mean the takeover hasn't happened yet? She's been posting a lot of content on the activism recently. There are like 30 Instagram stories or something. I mean we're not expecting her to hand her password to the organisations right? That was the takeover.

But I didn't ask for her to stop the activism, she was slated to perform AND give a speech, not perform OR give a speech. Do you think it was insensitive for Katy to perform at the Graduation event? You can still care about someone without halting your work. WHen you said 'pop music making machine', that insinuated that I was demanding that she takes away her activism for human rights, which I did not. Nobody wants to turn her into a machine.

The takeover is still going on I believe. I think there were four non-profits that are slated to speak on her platform. Interrupting her activist work or continuing with music immediately after can seem like she's capitalizing off of the publicity. I never saw that she was supposed to perform, would you mind linking me to the announcement?

59 minutes ago, daisy said:

Why would her fans drag her? She gave us the best video in years and she looked so good

You must be new to GGD 

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