Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Enigma said: There was slavery everywhere but the North fought to end it. There are less Republicans in the North because there were less slave owners. The correlation is too strong to ignore. Sure it was a “battle” flag. And they were battling for slavery. Anyone owning that flag is a disgusting person. My dad has a confederate flag and understands the awful history, but he likes the design of it and he is far from racist and a disgusting person and there are different interpretations of the meaning and different flags that do look similar, I would never personally own one, but do I judge my dad? no. He is not republican, he is apolitical. Oh and F*ck you if you say anything bad about my dad, you don't know him. Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monsterabriel said: Not everybody on both sides are perfect, I disagree again, sorry, yes the modern republican party is destroyed, but saying everybody is bad is kind of disgusting. What’s disgusting is that their views are seen as a normal, valid political opinion. The Republican platform is literally “Christian bigotry but dilute it just enough that it’s not blatant”. You don’t vote republican without an hidden intolerant motive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, Monsterabriel said: My dad has a confederate flag and understands the awful history, but he likes the design of it and he is far from racist and a disgusting person and there are different interpretations of the meaning and different flags that do look similar, I would never personally own one, but do I judge my dad? no. He is not republican, he is apolitical. Imagine owning the pro-slavery flag because “you like the design”. Big ****ing yikes. Should we be able to own a Nazi flag because the colours match? It’s nearly the same thing, only one of them has been normalized (yikes). Don’t judge your dad if you want to be “apolitical“, but don’t come at us for calling it out. I’m judging your dad big time and so should you, but oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Enigma said: What’s disgusting is that their views are seen as a normal, valid political opinion. The Republican platform is literally “Christian bigotry but dilute it just enough that it’s not blatant”. You don’t vote republican without an hidden intolerant motive. I hate politics anyways. There are different levels of the right wing spectrum. Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Yesss we have no choice but to stan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: Imagine owning the pro-slavery flag because “you like the design”. Big ****ing yikes. Should we be able to own a Nazi flag because the colours match? It’s nearly the same thing, only one of them has been normalized (yikes). Don’t judge your dad if you want to be “apolitical“, but don’t come at us for calling it out. I’m judging your dad big time and so should you, but oh well. No Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Enigma You really like judging people you don't know Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Enigma like I said he knows the history behind it Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monsterabriel said: My dad has a confederate flag and understands the awful history, but he likes the design of it and he is far from racist and a disgusting person and there are different interpretations of the meaning and different flags that do look similar, I would never personally own one, but do I judge my dad? no. He is not republican, he is apolitical. Oh and F*ck you if you say anything bad about my dad, you don't know him. Imagine having a confederate flag and pretending you're not political Choosing to own and represent such a symbol is political no matter how you try to spin it. The confederate flag is a political symbol quite literally. It represented a politics that wished to secede from the rest of the nation in order to keep propped up a system of slavery and servitude of an entire category of people. Choosing to uphold such a symbol is to endorse and support such a politics. Stop deluding yourself man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monsterabriel said: I hate politics anyways. There are different levels of the right wing spectrum. The economic right wing in other countries? Sure. Republicans? No. They’re ACTIVELY trying to take away basic human rights. And American politics are all red or all blue, so red is a big no. Just because YOU are not interested in it doesn’t mean everyone has to close their eyes on this issue. 4 minutes ago, Monsterabriel said: @Enigma You really like judging people you don't know I don’t need to know anything besides the fact he owns a slavery flag. Don’t care about the rest. 1 minute ago, Monsterabriel said: @Enigma like I said he knows the history behind it Then WHY the **** does he own one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gagaloo911 said: Imagine having a confederate flag and pretending you're not political Choosing to own and represent such a symbol is political no matter how you try to spin it. The confederate flag is a political symbol quite literally. It represented a politics that wished to secede from the rest of the nation in order to keep propped up a system of slavery and servitude of an entire category of people. Choosing to uphold such a symbol is to endorse and support such a politics. Stop deluding yourself man. I don't own it, my dad does, he doesn't care for politics, he also has autism and so do I, idk if he really knows the meaning, I do feel bad about it. I am left leaning btw, my dad is apolitical. Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Monsterabriel said: I don't own it, my dad does, he doesn't care for politics, he also has autism and so do I, idk if he really knows the meaning, I do feel bad about it. Then he has no reason to own one. “Not knowing” is no excuse. I’m not even American and I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Enigma said: The economic right wing in other countries? Sure. Republicans? No. They’re ACTIVELY trying to take away basic human rights. And American politics are all red or all blue, so red is a big no. Just because YOU are not interested in it doesn’t mean everyone has to close their eyes on this issue. I don’t need to know anything besides the fact he owns a slavery flag. Don’t care about the rest. Then WHY the **** does he own one? Today, the use of the Confederate flag is often controversial. While a number of non-extremists still use the flag as a symbol of Southern heritage or pride, there is growing recognition, especially outside the South, that the symbol is offensive to many Americans. However, because of the continued use of the flag by non-extremists, one should not automatically assume that display of the flag is racist or white supremacist in nature. The symbol should only be judged in context. This is from ADL Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Monsterabriel said: Today, the use of the Confederate flag is often controversial. While a number of non-extremists still use the flag as a symbol of Southern heritage or pride, there is growing recognition, especially outside the South, that the symbol is offensive to many Americans. However, because of the continued use of the flag by non-extremists, one should not automatically assume that display of the flag is racist or white supremacist in nature. The symbol should only be judged in context. This is from ADL It’s still racist. It’s just been normalized. If you’re proud of being southern, buy a Texas flag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatica Island 8,517 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Enigma said: It’s still racist. It’s just been normalized. If you’re proud of being southern, buy a Texas flag. I don't live in Texas and I don't own the confederate flag my dad does, I live in TN and my dad has one too. I would never own a confederate flag. I honestly hate being southern for the record. Any/All Pronouns, Genderfluid🏳⚧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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