Bradley 58,858 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'm gonna try to put this into perspective for everyone. Joanne (standard): 11 tracks and is 39 minutes long. Chromatica (standard): 16 tracks (including 3 interludes). Now I'm gonna temporarily discount the interludes because they're most likely between 30 seconds and 1 min long, so if we're talking about real full tracks, we've got 13 of them. That's still more than Joanne. Let's talk about the length rather than the number of tracks. Let's not forget that we live in the streaming era and artists need to adapt to the current musical climate to get the best out of their careers. Chromatica has been marketed and hinted to be a very commercially driven album, something like Dangerous Woman, Talk that Talk, Anti rather than the more artsy (all for the Grammys and awards not the radio) ones like Lemonade or A Star Is Born. It's also noted from the fact that she has minimal production credits, though she did write every single one of them. I believe that she gave a lot of space for her collaborators because she wants to explore what it's like to make a pop record that is truly pop and untainted by her artsy references and non-radio-friendly instrumentals. With 43 mins for 13 tracks, the average length of Chromatica is 3 mins 30 secs, which isn't even that short. Some songs are gonna go a bit below, some songs above (prolly Sine form Above and 1000 Doves). Deluxe As for Joanne (deluxe) including GG, JAD and AD (work tape), it's 47 minutes long and I assume Chromatica (deluxe), including Love Me Right, 1000 Doves (piano) but not SL remix, will be between 49 and 50 mins long. That gives us a solid experience of an era based on a 15-track, 50-min long record with three interludes for the narrative and 1 demo. This is an album in the streaming era we're talking about. For comparison Future Nostalgia (Dua Lipa) - 11 tracks, 37 mins long. No bonus tracks. High Road (Kesha) - 16 tracks, 55 mins long, including all bonus tracks. Changes (Justin Bieber) - 16 tracks, 48 mins long. Rare (Selena Gomez) - originally 13 tracks, 42 mins. But her recent re-release made it 17 tracks, 54 mins. (still comparable to Chromatica) Chromatica - 15 tracks (including piano demo but not interludes), 49~50 minutes. There's still one TBA track for the Japan edition. It could be another piano demo. The only album that still prefers the long-album format is The Weeknd's After Hours, which is 65 mins long with 17 tracks. I don't think we can complain about Chromatica at all, it's pretty reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGaAst 13,023 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 its not a long album either. Oh wait. It isn't long it isn't short then what is it? Enigma? Love it when you call me legs In the morning, buy me eggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,858 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, GaGaAst said: its not a long album either. Oh wait. It isn't long it isn't short then what is it? Enigma? because to GGD, long = good, when it's not necessarily the case. She's taking the commercial over the experimental route this time and the streaming era makes it more and more competitive for 4-6 min songs to thrive. By ensuring all songs are between 3 and 4 mins, she can practically pick any song to be released as a single and sent to the radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGaAst 13,023 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Bradley said: because to GGD, long = good, when it's not necessarily the case. She's taking the commercial over the experimental route this time and the streaming era makes it more and more competitive for 4-6 min songs to thrive. By ensuring all songs are between 3 and 4 mins, she can practically pick any song to be released as a single and sent to the radio. I am still not able to understand hype for long albums. For once she is releasing a commercial album and monsters are still complaining. As long as there's no filler on the album a short album is what 2020 needs as you rightfully said. Future Nostalgia for example. In meanwhile we continue to love and support her irrespective of what length the album is Love it when you call me legs In the morning, buy me eggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblegum Bitch 18,934 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 To be honest, I prefer "Short" (though they are not short) albums, e.g. Future Nostalgia which is 37 minutes long, than 1.5-2 hours long albums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 114,755 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Long albums bore me So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 It’s literally the perfect length. Every song averages to around 3 minutes. What do people want? 10 minute long songs? Lmfao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurelienvm 142 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Future Nostalgia is "short" but it's a perfect album. Chromatica will be too! Stop complaining, it's tiring! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blahwhatever22 8,117 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Why does it even matter if it is short?? The Fame Monster is 34 minutes long and still slays. Quality over quantity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,858 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Trillion Reasons said: To be honest, I prefer "Short" (though they are not short) albums, e.g. Future Nostalgia which is 37 minutes long, than 1.5-2 hours long albums. Exactly. 4-5 min songs might have worked in 2011, but if she releases something like The Edge of Glory or You and I or even Mary Jane Holland in 2020, we can just rule them out immediately for their potential as singles. Radios will make sure they flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCpro 14,846 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bradley said: I believe that she gave a lot of space for her collaborators because she wants to explore what it's like to make a pop record that is truly pop and untainted by her artsy references and non-radio-friendly instrumentals. So what you’re saying is you think she abandoned her artistic integrity in order to make commercial basic pop songs? interesting 08, 09, 11, 13, 16, 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGaAst 13,023 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Adarsh said: It’s literally the perfect length. Every song averages to around 3 minutes. What do people want? 10 minute long songs? Lmfao Exactly. Long songs are overrated af. Unless its 10 minutes version of All Too Well or this Love it when you call me legs In the morning, buy me eggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blahwhatever22 said: Why does it even matter if it is short?? The Fame Monster is 34 minutes long and still slays. Quality over quantity Exactly thank u, we all getting ocd we need a break from GGD ...ITS ADDICTIVE & quarantine is making it worse as we have more free time to be on here & obess over Gaga. we criticizing before we get the album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, iCpro said: So what you’re saying is you think she abandoned her artistic integrity in order to make commercial basic pop songs? interesting Commercial =/= bad you know. Let’s not act like she’s an obscure indie pop artist. She’s always been commercial anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,858 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, iCpro said: So what you’re saying is you think she abandoned her artistic integrity in order to make commercial basic pop songs? interesting So you're saying that pop albums like Dangerous Woman and Talk That Talk are automatically bad? Because they are not as experimental as Lemonade and Born This Way are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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