Shane Dawson catching heat for old blackface videos

[hELXIG 43,092]

Ugh we been knew about this since forever, this isn't a new scandal.

Also look, I am not defending these actions AT ALL, but what I want some of you to know is that times, were, different, back then.

Some of you are too young to remember, but back in 2009 we hadn't developed a social conscience yet regarding POC and privilege. That movement of change didn't start until like 2012-2013 with things like the black lives matter movement.

Things like blackface and saying the N word were, for the most part, socially acceptable as jokes. Not completely, but it was simply seen as 'edgy' and 'button pushing' rather than disgusting and unacceptable like it is today (which is how it should be). There was no  backlash, no cancelling on Twitter, people were just uneducated and unaware of how damaging it was.

I'm not saying it's okay, I'm just saying that y'all don't realise how different things were 10 years ago.

 

(P.S. it was the same regarding LGBTQ rights. Using the word 'f.ag' casually as a joke and awful, damaging stereotypes of gay people were rampant. Noone would bat an eye at it. The world at large didn't even learn what transgender meant until like five years ago. I grew up in a completely different world than some of you and it's just a 5-10 year difference. Anyone under 24 is lucky that you got to grow up in a socially conscious world, because any of us who are minorities and a bit older know what it's like to grow up in a world where society as a whole seems to hate you. Also Gaga kickstarted an LGBTQ rights movement in the pop scene where we were NOT spoken about previously, which has given us so much acceptance to this day, so be grateful for her)

[LilyLark 10,105]

17 minutes ago, Electric Mary said:

 

both from 10ish years ago....are you cancelling her? if so...what are you doing here? bye!

now what pisses me your bland same old arguments trying to be social justice warriors of the world....and the fact that those arguments only valid with the people you don't like/stan 

Shane apologised, gaga apologised (prov WAAAy fewer times than Shane, one tweet and that's it. ) 

just leave lmao and stop embarrassing yourselves 

 

Why do fans do this sh*t? You always have to drag Gaga down, what other fan base constantly brings up the f*ck ups? And you know it's not on the same level.

We know Gaga messed up. The latter pic is not comparable tho, as it was V magazine and clearly not Blackface and is also edited to make her look even darker.  No one is even sure it's Gaga in the former, and as bad as it is iF it is Gaga she's not wearing it herself, just the idiots next to her, and it was allegedly during her coked out of her mind phase.

[raragaga 8,119]

I'm not about cancel culture unless you truly deserve it. But I really just don't understand how anyone ever thinks/thought it was okay to do that.

[GunninMan 1,406]

10 minutes ago, Earthfan said:

Yikes. Some you really do not understand your privilege and have the slightest understanding of societal issues that do not affect you. Cringe.

VERY that 

[Electric Mary 1,051]

12 minutes ago, LilyLark said:

Why do fans do this sh*t? You always have to drag Gaga down, what other fan base constantly brings up the f*ck ups? And you know it's not on the same level.

We know Gaga messed up. The latter pic is not comparable tho, as it was V magazine and clearly not Blackface. No one is even sure it's Gaga in the former, and as bad as it is iF it is Gaga she's not wearing it herself, just the idiots next to her, and it was allegedly during her coked out of her mind phase.

lmaoo who said I was dragging gaga down? you missed the whole point dude, im just calling out your hypocrisy and some members like you out there  

 

I FORGIVE her for this...because I can use my brain and understand that this was almost 10 years ago, and things have changed a lot since then...the culture, the jokes, the lifestyle. The same way I forgive SHANE because he was doing this in 2007... I mean you're talking about a time when stupid movies like American pie were a thing, just imagine a movie like that being released in 2020.

Shane literally made like 10 videos and interviews and podcasts talking about his bad behaviour in the past and apologised like 10000000 times. Still, every year people like you (I guess your lives are that boring idk) like to dig stuff like this up and try to cancel people that don't need all this **** in the first place. Even worse, you're in a Lady Gaga forum (a woman that I love with all my heart) but we all know has a history of "questionable" behaviours as well... examples? well let's see...HOSTING an Halloween party in 2008 where she dressed as a slave master and had her friends paint their face with black paint and put chains around their necks, making remarks about Adele's body back in 2012....working with LITERAL RAPISTS and sexual predators and who knows what else...and those are just few examples...

but I guess since she's your fave she gets "a pass"? I mean c'mon just admite you and other people here are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites who have nothing better to do. I'm sick of this. every year the same old story.

if you can forgive all this, you can forgive Shane. I did.

[LilyLark 10,105]

6 minutes ago, Earthfan said:

Yikes. Some you really do not understand your privilege and have the slightest understanding of societal issues that do not affect you. Cringe.

Yep. And some on here revert to some childish "so why don't you cancel Fallon/Katy/Gaga/Lana/Kimmel/Rihanna/etc." because they can't recognize context and the level of severity. I swear I will scream if I see one more person on here (a supposed Gaga fan site)  equate Gaga's Snooki level tan on her V magazine cover or Ariana's tan with actual blackface in an effort to deflect from the discussion.

A lot of people are incapable of having an adult, nuanced discussion about acknowledging racism, etc.

[farting 629]

Put him on the banner

[LilyLark 10,105]

14 minutes ago, Electric Mary said:

lmaoo who said I was dragging gaga down? you missed the whole point dude, im just calling out your hypocrisy and some members like you out there  

 

I FORGIVE her for this...because I can use my brain and understand that this was almost 10 years ago, and things have changed a lot since then...the culture, the jokes, the lifestyle. The same way I forgive SHANE because he was doing this in 2007... I mean you're talking about a time when stupid movies like American pie were a thing, just imagine a movie like that being released in 2020.

Shane literally made like 10 videos and interviews and podcasts talking about his bad behaviour in the past and apologised like 10000000 times. Still, every year people like you (I guess you're lifes are that boring idk) like to dig stuff like this up and try to cancel people that don't need all this **** in the first place. Even worse, you're in a Lady Gaga forum (a woman that I love with all my heart) but we all know has a history of "questionable" behaviours as well... examples? well let's see...HOSTING an Halloween party in 2008 where she dressed as a slave master and had her friends paint their face with black paint and put chains around their necks, making remarks about Adele's body back in 2012....working with LITERAL RAPISTS and sexual predators and who knows what else...and those are just few examples...

but I guess since she's your fave she gets "a pass"? I mean c'mon just admite you and other people here are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites who have nothing better to do. I'm sick of this. every year the same old story.

if you can forgive all this, you can forgive Shane. I did.

First of all, I didn't dig stuff up or even start this discussion. I was commenting on why Shane bothers people to this day, more so than say Camilla. If you like Shane, that's fine. No one is saying he's the devil, we're discussing his past, racism, & how social media brought it up again.

Anyway, sis she never hosted a racist Halloween party NOR did she make comments about Adele's body. She's made some terrible choices, but not that. You need to stop believing everything off twitter or tumblr, sigh. The Halloween party BS doesn't even make sense because there are other pictures from that event showing crowds of people (including pics of Gaga without those two racist idiots, so it certainly indicates they weren't with her) & only two idiots are in Blackface in a giant crowd. The same idiots allegedly also said they went up and asked for pictures with her. It's interesting you are so eager to believe the worst of her, when the real story is bad enough in that she posed with two racist morons.

 

@HaroonCan't this thread be locked?

@PartySick

 

[Electric Mary 1,051]

12 minutes ago, LilyLark said:

Girl she never hosted a racist Halloween party NOR did she make comments about Adele's body. She's made some shitty bad choices, but not that. You need to stop believing everything off twitter or tumblr, sigh. The Halloween party BS doesn't even make sense because there are other pictures from that event showing crowds of people & only two idiots are in Blackface. The same idiots also said they went up and asked for pictures with her.

@Haroon

@Partysick

 

Oh wow. you're that delusional.

first of all, you can't prove that the halloween party is fake or not, it's something people have been discussing for YEARS and never got to an agreement (at least 100%), the Adele's stuff is real even if later she praised her for her confidence, doesn't change the fact that that comment was a bit out of place. Working with rapists and who knows what else is also a known issue in her career. My point is, she apologised and showed she regrets what she said and done, that's why I don't think she deserves to be cancelled. And I guess we both agree on that. My issue with you and people like you is that  you turn your back on people and start cancelling for the same reasons but since you don't care about them or they're not you're fave you simply don't care and cancel them anyway, and for your faves and people like gaga you turn a blind eye. That's hypocrisy, that's petty....that's EVIL and I'll never respect someone who does that.

[Gagas lil monster 2,432]

11 hours ago, Wixson said:

How do people like him become famous in the first place is beyond me. 

If i were you i would shut up. I love him and bringing up things that happened YEARS ago just to bring him down is quite frankly... pathetic 

[LilyLark 10,105]

8 minutes ago, Electric Mary said:

Oh wow. you're that delusional.

first of all, you can't prove that the halloween party is fake or not, it's something people have been discussing for YEARS and never got to an agreement (at least 100%), the Adele's stuff is real even if later she praised her for her confidence, doesn't change the fact that that comment was a bit out of place. Working with rapists and who knows what else is also a known issue in her career. My point is, she apologised and showed she regrets what she said and done, that's why I don't think she deserves to be cancelled. And I guess we both agree on that. My issue with you and people like you is that  you turn your back on people and start cancelling for the same reasons but since you don't care about them or they're not you're fave you simply don't care and cancel them anyway, and for your faves and people like gaga you turn a blind eye. That's hypocrisy, that's petty....that's EVIL and I'll never respect someone who does that.

Common sense dictates the racist Halloween party is BS based on the other photos at the same party with Gaga in the background. It was people trying to sensationalize an already sh*tty story of her posing with two racists in a group of 8 or so ppl & some Madonna stans spread it like crazy. I remember the whole deal, even the tabloids covering the photos and changing their story to it "allegedly" being her because they could never confirm it was her in the photos even tho it likely is...I have a weird capability for remembering random pop culture sh*t. And the Adele thing was BS, back when idiots made stuff up on twitter & were easily believed in the early days of social media. Everyone on here knows the Adele thing is fake, too, you can even ask about the Adele thing in a post.
 

I don't want to fight, so let's just stop this.

[Sanju 1,504]

The double standards Im seeing once again  

[Debithius 5,865]

This was 2008 to 2011 yall calm down jesus. He is obviously not doing it anymore. Times were different. Go ahead and give Lana **** for wearing a headdress in 2012 too.

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1 hour ago, Electric Mary said:

Oh wow. you're that delusional.

first of all, you can't prove that the halloween party is fake or not, it's something people have been discussing for YEARS and never got to an agreement (at least 100%), the Adele's stuff is real even if later she praised her for her confidence, doesn't change the fact that that comment was a bit out of place. Working with rapists and who knows what else is also a known issue in her career. My point is, she apologised and showed she regrets what she said and done, that's why I don't think she deserves to be cancelled. And I guess we both agree on that. My issue with you and people like you is that  you turn your back on people and start cancelling for the same reasons but since you don't care about them or they're not you're fave you simply don't care and cancel them anyway, and for your faves and people like gaga you turn a blind eye. That's hypocrisy, that's petty....that's EVIL and I'll never respect someone who does that.

 

1 hour ago, LilyLark said:

Common sense dictates the racist Halloween party is BS based on the other photos at the same party with Gaga in the background. It was people trying to sensationalize an already sh*tty story of her posing with two racists in a group of 8 or so ppl & some Madonna stans spread it like crazy. I remember the whole deal, even the tabloids covering the photos and changing their story to it "allegedly" being her because they could never confirm it was her in the photos even tho it likely is...I have a weird capability for remembering random pop culture sh*t. And the Adele thing was BS, back when idiots made stuff up on twitter & were easily believed in the early days of social media. Everyone on here knows the Adele thing is fake, too, you can even ask about the Adele thing in a post.
 

I don't want to fight, so let's just stop this.

 

Omg you guys are you talking about the pics of Gaga with the people wearing blackface? She wasn't at a Halloween party! Some newspaper just got a hold of those pictures and lied! She was at this insane German techno/sex club that night called Lab.oratory where they have dress up nights (but usually people are just naked/barely clothed and having sex everywhere to techno music). Or maybe it was a techno club called Berghain... Idk it gets confusing where she was at. But either way this particular night she was hanging out with her friends and people kept recognising her and coming up to take pictures:

 

 

And when the blackface people approached her for a photo she looks clearly uncomfortable

 

But she was definitely drunk and on drugs that night considering the atmoshpere, so obviously wasn't thinking clearly enough to say no (probably too loud in there for her to say no anyway)

 

This was also the night that inspired her to write Scheisse

 

 

 

 

[Scarlet Witch 1,642]

I thought the "Halloween Party" wasn't about blackface? It was literally scat.. like poop on your face... and the V Magazine shoot was obviously a ridiculous fake tan aesthetic.. like if you can't even differentiate that with blackface then you have no right to comment on this