Brecht 7 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, BLACKPINK said: Here comes the Twitter remark you made. Just because you mostly see fans in Twitter, DOES NOT mean you can generalize all of us BLINKs as that particular group. K-Pop is Korean pop music, which is from an Asian country. They may not be all Asian artists, but they are Asian artists. Oh, and here's the manufacture remark. You are not one who is seeing all the creative control of the artists. K-Pop artists do make their music, do their concepts and perform. If you do not believe me, let's first look at the tons of receipts I am about to pull out. Let's start with Spit It Out by MAMAMOO's Solar. Songwriter(s): Solar • Kim-Do Hoon Producer(s) : Kim-Do Hoon • Kim Sung-won https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spit_It_Out_(Solar_song) Let's start next with Feel Special by TWICE, and not the song, the whole album. Track 2: Rainbow, lyrics solely written by Nayeon, a member of the group Track 3: Get Loud, lyrics written by JQ and Jihyo Track 4: Trick It, lyrics written by JQ and Dahyun Track 5: Love Foolish, lyrics written by Momo and Shim Eun-Ji Track 6: 21:29, lyrics written by all members https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feel_Special And to end things up, because I am tired of pulling receipts to broaden the horizons of your very stuck up mindset, here is Map of the Soul: 7 by BTS. All members have atleast wrote and contributed to one song. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_the_Soul:_7 I never said Kpop artists weren't talented, I said they were manufactured. And they are, there's no denying that. From a very young age they are put under a lot of stress and unrealistic expectations while these corporations shape them into whatever they want. It's basically brainwash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,171 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, DavidLuis198 said: In the last 10 years, 9 white artists won AOTY They all deserved it to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, DavidLuis198 said: In the last 10 years, 9 white artists won AOTY To add to this, in the last 10 years, 8 white artists won SOTY, ROTY, and BNA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,171 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, DavidLuis198 said: In the last 10 years, 9 white artists won AOTY Bruno mars is not white, pharrel williams ain't white either .where did you get your facts from? Anyway after looking at the full list of AOTY winners i can definitely see that the academy focused on variety of genres rather than races Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidLuis198 1,146 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, RenegAde said: Bruno mars is not white He's the exception I said I don't know how to write in english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHunter 866 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, RenegAde said: Nonsense.... neither has gaga . Atleast with ASIB & born this way she definitely deserved No no, I love Gaga but Kendrick is on another lane musically, and he truly deserves icon recognition. He is a beautiful poet and composer and story teller. So is Gaga but, that doesn’t Take anything away from Kendrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,171 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, DavidLuis198 said: He's the exception I said Pharrel too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowHunter 866 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Also i always try to see the non-racist in what people deem racist, but the Grammy’s, consciously or not, have notoriously snubbed black artists! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotLikeMexico 5,188 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Girl not everything is about race. Yes racism exists and it’s a ugly thing. But I’m just so sick of people who constantly cry out racism when something doesn’t go their way or fit their own personal agenda. And no I’m not white before y’all wanna call me racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieGOAT 5,216 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 While I’m not always happy with the Grammy winners.. this seems to be a case of confirmation bias. If you want to believe that the Grammy’s are racist, you can look at past awards/nominees and find bits & facts that support that claim. If you want to believe that the Grammy’s are out of touch, you can do the same thing. I believe that the Grammy’s award commercial success over quality/critical success.. but I’m careful how I analyze the show because I don’t want to manipulate the results just to fit my narrative. I think as a whole the Grammy’s have hits and misses like every award show, and they can’t please everyone. However, I don’t think they do anything out of malice or toxic prejudice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidLuis198 1,146 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, RenegAde said: Pharrel too? I didn't found him at the lists I saw I don't know how to write in english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorrgh 679 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, xoxo Craig said: Beyoncé has 25 Grammys Yes in mostly the “black categories” smh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 The grammys are rigged i mean look at what happend last time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawyersInsanity 401 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 The Grammy's (like any award) don't mean anything in a real sense it's just a literal trophy but most of these award institutions are inherently out of touch...i think more artists should start not going or refuse to have their work be submitted for the award as a boycott honestly. stop trying to please an institution that constantly invalidates artists and creates TONE DEAF/RACIST sub categories to keep "certain" artists out of winning larger awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhatesyouall 2,731 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, DavidLuis198 said: And what's the difference from 1989? 1989 is an album were Taylor talks about love and breakups. The thing is, both albums were the most important female albums from their respective years (BEYONCÉ being in the top 10 of best selling records when her album was released 3 weeks before the year ended, and selling more than Taylor if you add the sales from 2013 and 2014) and helped boost the sales of albums. Also, Beyoncé made a great impact on music dropping the album with all those music videos with zero promotion and stopping the internet. What I meant on my post is, they are both just pop records that are not as groundbreaking conceptually than others in AOTY category? Yeah, maybe, but if that's true, why Beyoncé lost to an white artist who had and 'better' (lyrically, conceptually, sonically) album, and Taylor won against a black artist who had a 'better' (lyrically, conceptually, sonically) album? What's the difference here? 1) 1989 was a juggernaut. It's one of the biggest pop records ever. 2) Taylor actually writes her own songs. I hope that you don't put this on the same pedestal with ST, which was mostly forgotten shortly after the surprise release week. It didn't make any sense to give AOTY to Kendrick when 1989 existed. It was on par with 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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