Haus Labs & Andy Warhol

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In this Instagram post, Gaga stated that it was Haus Labs that allowed her to finally become the 'Warhol of an artist' she has always wanted to be: 

Reflecting on what Haus Labs is / what it has become over the past year - does anyone else find that statement quite grating?

I don't understand how HL is even remotely Warhol inspired. If anything, it is what Warhol sought to poke fun at... consumerism. 

The Fame is probably her most 'Warholian' work and ARTPOP, too, for obvious reasons - not a make up line. 

I think it's disappointing that she would look back at all her career and think that HL - of all things - is what is her 'artistic' peak, which the Warhol statement suggests. 

I don't know. Just feels extremely disingenuous to me and kind of difficult to hear as a fan. 

I mean... if the Gaga of today thinks that HL = Andy Warhol... I find that really questionable 

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Yah... Warhol was taking the piss.

How embarrassing. 

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Warhol sweetie I'm so sorry

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i appreciate the effort put into the thought but i think you might be overthinking it i just think she was having fun branching out into a new artistic relm for herself and taking a different form of creative control
(selling albums is also consumerist so that logic disqualifies most all of her art)

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Warhol was successful in that he had a team of people working in his collaborative hive known as The Factory. With the Factory, he created a lot of work. And with that work came money. Yes, Warhol poked at consumerism, but was also a part of it (eventually). 

She is basically saying she now has a solid group of people, making work, collaborating, on a new level.

The Fame and ARTPOP or whatever were Warholian on a surface level in terms of visuals, because she was LITERALLY using Warhol references visually. Haus Labs is Warholian in concept, not in visuals. Difference.

I wouldnt question it. Maybe for once just stop criticizing this woman for anything and everything she does. 

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She tried her best to sell it 

 

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10 minutes ago, SawyersInsanity said:

i appreciate the effort put into the thought but i think you might be overthinking it i just think she was having fun branching out into a new artistic relm for herself and taking a different form of creative control
(selling albums is also consumerist so that logic disqualifies most all of her art)

I could be overthinking it - but, I mean, she literally said in this statement that HL, in her view, has helped her to be the Warholian artist she has always wanted to be. 

When we reflect on Gaga's career, this comment shouldn't really be seen as a throwaway, since we know she idolises the work of Warhol very much. 

And I understand your point regards consumerism and music. 

But Warhol sought to parody consumerist culture by being a part of consumerism culture. That's what Gaga sought to do, too, with some of her earlier work. Her career between TF and ARTPOP certainly parodied the system she was within. 

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The impression I get is that like always she felt inspired and had an artistic vision but she lost that vision along the way. She always seems to have so much enthusiasm at the start of her projects and then suddenly loses it. It also feels too much like this is a way for Gaga to be a business woman rather than a creative artist. She has a persona for every project and the one for HL is a bit too much like a boss lady.

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5 minutes ago, SHALLOW said:

She tried her best to sell it 

 

I think it’s sold pretty well so far

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GREAT, I want to die 

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8 minutes ago, LG666 said:

Warhol was successful in that he had a team of people working in his collaborative hive known as The Factory. With the Factory, he created a lot of work. And with that work came money. Yes, Warhol poked at consumerism, but was also a part of it (eventually). 

She is basically saying she now has a solid group of people, making work, collaborating, on a new level.

The Fame and ARTPOP or whatever were Warholian on a surface level in terms of visuals, because she was LITERALLY using Warhol references visually. Haus Labs is Warholian in concept, not in visuals. Difference.

I wouldnt question it. Maybe for once just stop criticizing this woman for anything and everything she does. 

Definitely not a fair comment to make regarding this post, nor my other contributions to this forum - but thank you anyway for your comment. I totally understand your point, and you're probably right that she was referring to the system behind Haus Labs more than the products themselves. 

But having a team building a make up line is totally incomparable to what Warhol and his Factory did. And although I realise that this was just an instagram caption, coming from Gaga it should hold some weight. 

Warhol did poke fun at consumerism whilst being a part of it - that was the point. 

With HL, Gaga is a part of consumerism... celebrating and promoting consumerism. 

It's just, in my opinion, a totally incorrect statement to make and kind of insults her previous statements about Warhol, since - in my view - it shows how much her mindset has changed, and how she is no longer the artist she was.

And I say that as a fan of Gaga (obviously) and - perhaps less obviously - a fan of HL. 

I have written many posts on here in support of HL. I believe in its message and I believe in its authenticity. 

But I absolutely do not buy or believe it's connection to Warhol. 

It was a 'cheap' comment to make, that, as a fan who analyses and cares about Gaga's artistry, is hard to read, as it undermines a lot of her integrity - allbeit in a very shallow and unimportant form, I admit. 

 

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I shouldn't be surprised tho. It's what she always does. She latches on to something and then it's all about how she wanted to do that her whole life.

Honestly, it makes her sound disingenuous.

This is why, for example, Fenty Beauty doesn't annoy me the way Haus Labs does. Rihanna never tried to make it about some grand vision. It's makeup. 

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I care only about the line in her caption where she says "battle for your life." The rest