Marina's manager fired while on maternity leave

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1 hour ago, Guapo said:

What´s her point? Artists want a manager who is available and does not have other commitments? In my opinion this isn´t sexism: it´s the nature of the job. Being a manager of an artist like Marina is not the same as working in an office from 9 to 5. I am sure anyone who isn´t going to be available 24/7 would not be able to meet his/her client needs. Let´s not make it about gender.

It is completely a matter of gender. Would a man drop their job to take care of his children? NO. It all falls down on women. So women will be fired while men will thrive. 

[codymonster 8,702]

1 hour ago, Chic said:

If it warranted a year then there should be maternal leave for a year. And if there's maternal leave for a year then I could just never go to work and steal the employer's money lol

 Sis.... You trying to set women’s rights back? Hardworking mothers who choose to have jobs ALSO deserve to feel financially stable AND spend quality time with their baby, but still come back to their jobs.

[Chic 20,830]

13 minutes ago, codymonster said:

 Sis.... You trying to set women’s rights back? Hardworking mothers who choose to have jobs ALSO deserve to feel financially stable AND spend quality time with their baby, but still come back to their jobs.

When did I try to set anything back? I said if it takes a woman a year to recover then maternity leave should last a year lol

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16 minutes ago, Chic said:

When did I try to set anything back? I said if it takes a woman a year to recover then maternity leave should last a year lol

It is a year in a lot of places/companies. 

[Bloody 64,632]

Not some of you tearing marina down with just a piece of the story.. I'm sure Marina had good reasons. This woman on the other hand sounds bitter. 

[darkchylde 14,857]

2 hours ago, Guapo said:

What´s her point? Artists want a manager who is available and does not have other commitments? In my opinion this isn´t sexism: it´s the nature of the job. Being a manager of an artist like Marina is not the same as working in an office from 9 to 5. I am sure anyone who isn´t going to be available 24/7 would not be able to meet his/her client needs. Let´s not make it about gender.

even managers have work rights. you can't just fire people for getting pregnant. how is it not a gender issue?

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1 hour ago, Brecht said:

It is completely a matter of gender. Would a man drop their job to take care of his children? NO. It all falls down on women. So women will be fired while men will thrive. 

Statistically speaking yes, women are more affected by having children, but this statement... ESPECIALLY on a site as gay as gaga daily () is so ignorant I don't know where to start.

Men have children too. Men are parents too. Please don't dismiss that to make the valid point that women face unique and unfair expectations.

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3 hours ago, radioactive said:

maybe id she released EH pt. II instead of Flop+****.....

Please bring back the Hell No reaction for this comment. Thanks.

[hELXIG 44,170]

I can understand hiring a temporary replacement while she's on leave, but not to outright fire her. But at the same time, we don't know the full situation   We don't know if this manager has done things perfectly herself

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42 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said:

Statistically speaking yes, women are more affected by having children, but this statement... ESPECIALLY on a site as gay as gaga daily () is so ignorant I don't know where to start.

Men have children too. Men are parents too. Please don't dismiss that to make the valid point that women face unique and unfair expectations.

You are using the exception to to explain the general. Not a cute look.

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2 hours ago, Brecht said:

It is completely a matter of gender. Would a man drop their job to take care of his children? NO. It all falls down on women. So women will be fired while men will thrive. 

 

1 hour ago, darkchylde said:

even managers have work rights. you can't just fire people for getting pregnant. how is it not a gender issue?

1. We don't even know if her maternity leave was the reason she was fired. This is just one side of the story.

2. Being a manager of a celebrity is obviously a job that's very demanding of someone's time. If having children compromises your ability to be available when you're needed, then I don't think it's all that unfair to not want that person to work for you anymore. Like @Guapo said, the nature of being a manager requires near constant availability. What is Marina (assuming that the person this woman is talking about is even her) supposed to do in this situation? Suppose that Bobby adopts kids and has a compromised schedule and is unable to effectively manage Gaga's career anymore. Would she be wrong to replace him with someone who would be more available as a manager? No. It's just the way business works. Yes, it is hard for some women (and men too btw) to juggle raising their children and working demanding jobs, which sucks, but I don't think it's fair to the artist in this case to allow their career to suffer when they could easily find someone else to do a better job. So let's not insinuate that Marina is sexist because of this 

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5 minutes ago, Amphetamine said:

 

1. We don't even know if her maternity leave was the reason she was fired. This is just one side of the story.

2. Being a manager of a celebrity is obviously a job that's very demanding of someone's time. If having children compromises your ability to be available when you're needed, then I don't think it's all that unfair to not want that person to work for you anymore. Like @Guapo said, the nature of being a manager requires near constant availability. What is Marina (assuming that the person this woman is talking about is even her) supposed to do in this situation? Suppose that Bobby adopts kids and has a compromised schedule and is unable to effectively manage Gaga's career anymore. Would she be wrong to replace him with someone who would be more available as a manager? No. It's just the way business works. Yes, it is hard for some women (and men too btw) to juggle raising their children and working demanding jobs, which sucks, but I don't think it's fair to the artist in this case to allow their career to suffer when they could easily find someone else to do a better job. So let's not insinuate that Marina is sexist because of this 

the point is she was never given a chance to prove she can commute being a manager and a parent. secondly, i don't consider the amount of work managing Marina and Gaga are the same. last, no job requires near constant availability. if it does, you're being exploited. even if you're representing someone very high profile (i.e. Gaga), you're allowed a work schedule and you're allowed your own life, thats why A list artists usually have different managers regarding different aspects of their schedule.

it's not like the only choice Marina had was to fire her manager and it's not like her career would suffer if her manager decided to become a mom, specially now that she's on hiatus and a temporary substitue could more easily adapt to whatever Marina's needs are.

we don't even know if Marina's up to decide who manages her (maybe it's up to her label or there's a complex situation going on here) but the truth is that if she is talking about Marina this is such a nasty move from her that can hardly be excused or defended.

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1 hour ago, darkchylde said:

even managers have work rights. you can't just fire people for getting pregnant. how is it not a gender issue?

I am sure that if a male manager could not keep up with the job he would get fired too. She most likely got fired for not being able to fulfill her duties and that was that.

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28 minutes ago, Amphetamine said:

 

1. We don't even know if her maternity leave was the reason she was fired. This is just one side of the story.

2. Being a manager of a celebrity is obviously a job that's very demanding of someone's time. If having children compromises your ability to be available when you're needed, then I don't think it's all that unfair to not want that person to work for you anymore. Like @Guapo said, the nature of being a manager requires near constant availability. What is Marina (assuming that the person this woman is talking about is even her) supposed to do in this situation? Suppose that Bobby adopts kids and has a compromised schedule and is unable to effectively manage Gaga's career anymore. Would she be wrong to replace him with someone who would be more available as a manager? No. It's just the way business works. Yes, it is hard for some women (and men too btw) to juggle raising their children and working demanding jobs, which sucks, but I don't think it's fair to the artist in this case to allow their career to suffer when they could easily find someone else to do a better job. So let's not insinuate that Marina is sexist because of this 

You said it beautifully. I agree completely with what you have wrote. 

[Kulture Kiari 3,433]

Most of you guys are being disgusting in this thread. Especially on this site being filled with mostly LGBQT+ members. Being fired during maternity leave is complete BS regardless if it's being a manager to a famous singer or working at a grocery store. 

And those saying "How is a women affected more than a man?" 

Um, excuse me? A woman carries a baby for 9 freaking months. She gives birth, whether regularly or via C-section, they still need time to recover. You guys think that the women use that time to party and drink? Both of my sister's recently gave birth and trust me, they had trouble standing up even after 10 days after giving birth. One of them even started bleeding and it was something scary. I'm not trying to say the father, or men have it easy either, but they dont have to be cut open to bring another baby to this world. 

Whether its Marina or not, whoever fired her during her maternity leave is unacceptable. Why not hire a temp and then, when the women in question comes to work, why not address the issue?