Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jewelsdelove said: This one is becoming deadlier the more it mutates. That’s what is frustrating to the scientific community. It is not behaving like a normal virus Are you sure about that? I know researchers in Italy did some NGS on their samples and compared them to some of the first Wuhan patients and the genomes were remarkably similar. I wasn't able to find that article, but here is one from Science, where it states that it looks like it accumulates one to two mutations per month, which is really low compared to other viruses (the flu, for instance, accumulates four to five mutations per month). https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6483/1176.full Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, blankpaper said: Especially because most of the people dying would have died from something else within the next few years anyway Some governments already urge workers to prepare themselves to go back to work. That’s insane. Even with social distancing measures in the work environment, we should’t leave our homes until systematic testing or a universal vaccine distribution. The work force is, per usual, being sent to death for the wellness of an already broken economy anyway. And while doctors and nurses contract the virus and die everyday, professional masks are being send to factory workers instead. Fvck the economy. This economic system has never cared about our lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuckGagaDaily 481 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said: Are you sure about that? I know researchers in Italy did some NGS on their samples and compared them to some of the first Wuhan patients and the genomes were remarkably similar. I wasn't able to find that article, but here is one from Science, where it states that it looks like it accumulates one to two mutations per month, which is really low compared to other viruses (the flu, for instance, accumulates four to five mutations per month). https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6483/1176.full I will read this, but take a look at the date. 13 March 2020. It has been six weeks since and new discoveries and developments that are confusing scientists have come to light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, adterp said: Fvck the economy. This economic system has never cared about our lives. 1 hour ago, blankpaper said: The UN said 200k-300k children will likely die as a result of the economic collapse (and that’s only children) I read somewhere else that 130M people will be pushed to the brink of starvation by the end of the year reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsenigma 9,520 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, adterp said: Some governments already urge workers to prepare themselves to go back to work. That’s insane. Even with social distancing measures in the work environment, we should’t leave our homes until systematic testing or a universal vaccine distribution. The work force is, per usual, being sent to death for the wellness of an already broken economy anyway. And while doctors and nurses contract the virus and die everyday, professional masks are being send to factory workers instead. Fvck the economy. This economic system has never cared about our lives. "**** the economy" yeah **** those estimated 130 MILLION people that will mlst likely end in extreme poverty by the end of this year. See, this is one of the main dilemmas, the economy or saying at home? We need a middle ground, sadly economy can not go **** itself, otherwise more people are likely to die because of starvation rather than the virus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Bardot 3,990 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, blankpaper said: Viruses mutate all the time and I thought I read that this one isn’t mutating all that fast? They typically become less deadly the more they mutate too. It’s not a scary thing, it’s just normal science most mutations have no effect. and it can go either way. in 1918 a mutation of the h1n1 flu strain caused cardiac arrest, seizures and internal bleeding in people 20-40. this happened during the second wave. so yes, most mutations have little or no effect pooiota Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, adamsenigma said: "**** the economy" yeah **** those estimated 130 MILLION people that will mlst likely end in extreme poverty by the end of this year. See, this is one of the main dilemmas, the economy or saying at home? We need a middle ground, sadly economy can not go **** itself, otherwise more people are likely to die because of starvation rather than the virus. Governments need to exercise caution in their reopening strategies and prioritize policies like widespread testing and case-tracking. If they can't do that, then they need to invest on them quickly, otherwise reopening will likely just result in a resurgence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, blankpaper said: 24 minutes ago, adamsenigma said: "**** the economy" yeah **** those estimated 130 MILLION people that will mlst likely end in extreme poverty by the end of this year. See, this is one of the main dilemmas, the economy or saying at home? We need a middle ground, sadly economy can not go **** itself, otherwise more people are likely to die because of starvation rather than the virus. Well from a global perspective, those deaths are inherently linked to an unfair and murderous economic system anyway. We could still save those lives, we could find the ressources to avoid increasing poverty. We know where to find money. We could have find solutions before, during or after the pandemic. But I guess nothing will change when saving this economy will always be prioritised over saving actual lives. This economy is responsible for this pandemic and has always killed. I'm just suggesting it's a great time to reflect, analyse the consequences of this economic system and maybe find ways to change completely to prevent further catastrophes and for once, to consider human lives and wellness above all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
re di tutto 924 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 12:58 PM, Nino said: You seem so intellectual and likable And you are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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