Maleficent 6 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people at grocery stores across New York State found a 13.9% had coronavirus antibodies, suggesting a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially) From the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78% Slightly less deadly than the Swine Flu based on this 2009 study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765289/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Maleficent said: New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people at grocery stores across New York State found a 13.9% had coronavirus antibodies, suggesting a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially) From the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78% Slightly less deadly than the Swine Flu based on this 2009 study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765289/ But 0.78% of the worlds population is 60M dead people!!1!!!1! reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, blankpaper said: But 0.78% of the worlds population is 60M dead people!!1!!!1! Ya I never got this argument? Who's to say the "right" amount of people who need to die annually? Like obvs death is sad but like...there's still a natural law... I know theres a more eloquent way to say this, but I'm struggling cuz its almost 11pm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownUser71 2,878 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, PartySick said: Good thing businesses are going to start opening back up tomorrow, right? This is tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-02/coronavirus-why-epidemiologists-and-economists-keep-arguing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Diamond heart99 said: None of the hospitals where I’m at have been over run, and I completely understand that’s because of the precautions we took. I’m fine until the extended deadline but beyond that - I’m done. I am with you - we can’t keep just extending. And if I hear one more person say we can’t have concerts or sports until a vaccine - I’m going to lose my mind. We were the first state to get hit with it, so they went into it completely blind and did really well flattening the curve and getting a handle on what was starting to spiral out of control. But they don’t know what to do now and just keep repeating the same things—the restrictions are supposed to end 5/4, but he already said that’s not happening. My city has about 500k people including all the sprawl, and we only had a few hundred cases so it’s ridiculous that we’re shut down to this extent reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuckGagaDaily 481 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Maleficent said: New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people at grocery stores across New York State found a 13.9% had coronavirus antibodies, suggesting a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially) From the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78% Slightly less deadly than the Swine Flu based on this 2009 study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765289/ Though you can not argue with those numbers, what cannot be stressed enough is the behavior of the virus itself. It is mutating at an alarming rate and is killing people who otherwise showed no symptoms. What is terrifying is how it is affecting vital organs with presenting symptoms. What everyone likes to point out is it’s similarities to Swine Flue etc., but what they are finding is that this new virus is attacking immune systems and unless we can find treatments that work, none so far. People will continue to die. By nature people and all living organisms are destined to die, but it does not mean that we do not have the power to prevent premature deaths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Maleficent said: Ya I never got this argument? Who's to say the "right" amount of people who need to die annually? Like obvs death is sad but like...there's still a natural law... I know theres a more eloquent way to say this, but I'm struggling cuz its almost 11pm Especially because most of the people dying would have died from something else within the next few years anyway reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Jewelsdelove said: It is mutating at an alarming rate and is killing people who otherwise showed no symptoms. Source for this? I took virology and cell biology 2 years ago as a freshman, but i recall an RNA virus mutating to be a good thing (thats how we ended up with the common cold from a deadly virus to a mundane one) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jewelsdelove said: Though you can not argue with those numbers, what cannot be stressed enough is the behavior of the virus itself. It is mutating at an alarming rate and is killing people who otherwise showed no symptoms. What is terrifying is how it is affecting vital organs with presenting symptoms. What everyone likes to point out is it’s similarities to Swine Flue etc., but what they are finding is that this new virus is attacking immune systems and unless we can find treatments that work, none so far. People will continue to die. By nature people and all living organisms are destined to die, but it does not mean that we do not have the power to prevent premature deaths. Viruses mutate all the time and I thought I read that this one isn’t mutating all that fast? They typically become less deadly the more they mutate too. It’s not a scary thing, it’s just normal science reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond heart99 5,262 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jewelsdelove said: Though you can not argue with those numbers, what cannot be stressed enough is the behavior of the virus itself. It is mutating at an alarming rate and is killing people who otherwise showed no symptoms. What is terrifying is how it is affecting vital organs with presenting symptoms. What everyone likes to point out is it’s similarities to Swine Flue etc., but what they are finding is that this new virus is attacking immune systems and unless we can find treatments that work, none so far. People will continue to die. By nature people and all living organisms are destined to die, but it does not mean that we do not have the power to prevent premature deaths. Show me where it’s killing people that have no symptoms? I’m blonde, I’m skinny, I’m rich and I’m a little bit of a bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Maleficent said: Source for this? I took virology and cell biology 2 years ago as a freshman, but i recall an RNA virus mutating to be a good thing (thats how we ended up with the common cold from a deadly virus to a mundane one) Mutations are random, they don't necessarily make a virus more benign. I would like to see the source, though, since it was my understanding that this virus actually mutates very slowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuckGagaDaily 481 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Maleficent said: Source for this? I took virology and cell biology 2 years ago as a freshman, but i recall an RNA virus mutating to be a good thing (thats how we ended up with the common cold from a deadly virus to a mundane one) Did you read the article in the first post? This is not meant to be shade, lol though I do not agree with a lot of your positions, I can respect that you always back up your statements with data and you cannot argue with that. That out of the way consider reading this: really interesting and takes all the pathos that news publications tend to use to garner reactions. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30628-0/fulltext Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuckGagaDaily 481 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, blankpaper said: Viruses mutate all the time and I thought I read that this one isn’t mutating all that fast? They typically become less deadly the more they mutate too. It’s not a scary thing, it’s just normal science This one is becoming deadlier the more it mutates. That’s what is frustrating to the scientific community. It is not behaving like a normal virus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuckGagaDaily 481 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Diamond heart99 said: Show me where it’s killing people that have no symptoms? Did you read the article? It talks about it and provides links to back up those claims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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