I'm really glad she postponed the album.

[Rio 5,088]

27 minutes ago, Franch Toast said:

One thing, they won't allow Taiwan to be part of the organization, which is just rich, considering that Taiwan is one of the only countries to have actually contained COVID-19 without destroying their economy. (This goes beyond WHO though and is a problem of the UN, which doesn't recognize Taiwan as a country, and WHO is part of the UN, so Taiwan can't be part of the WHO until the UN grants them membership.) Instead, they consider Taiwan a part of China, which has been very unhelpful considering it has its own independent government and a very different society. 

People also have criticized the WHO for mishandling the COVID-19 situation, in particular for initially downplaying its seriousness/dragging their feet in labeling it a pandemic, and not informing the world of the virus back when they found out in December and suppressing information, which many view as the agency trying to placate China at the expense of the allowing the virus to spread. There also are criticisms regarding the advice the agency has given regarding combating the virus, including regarding masks. 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, I was expecting a much more interesting account of why WHO are sooo bad. The Taiwan thing is unfortunate. That's it. I don't think they knew it would be so WIDESPREAD back in December, it had only just started ffs😂 I'm sure they reported on COVID-19 in early January, because I remember reading about it, and declared it an outbreak of public emergency by the end of January. I wouldn't call that necessarily LATE or suppressive, considering China have blatantly withheld so much, and didn't release details on the first cluster of cases until the 31st December. China didn't begin investigations until early January, and the first death was reported on 9th January. I don't think WHO could have done much better, sorry. It's utter conspiracy theory to blame WHO for allowing the virus to spread. The CCP are to blame, they're dodgy af, and I think your hate for WHO's handling over this Taiwan situation (which really isn't their fault), is distorting judgment on their handling of COVID-19.

[not Chromatica 5,393]

12 minutes ago, Rio said:

Honestly, I was expecting a much more interesting account of why WHO are sooo bad. The Taiwan thing is unfortunate. That's it. I don't think they knew it would be so WIDESPREAD back in December, it had only just started ffs😂 I'm sure they reported on COVID-19 in early January, because I remember reading about it, and declared it an outbreak of public emergency by the end of January. I wouldn't call that necessarily LATE or suppressive, considering China have blatantly withheld so much, and didn't release details on the first cluster of cases until the 31st December. China didn't begin investigations until early January, and the first death was reported on 9th January. I don't think WHO could have done much better, sorry. It's utter conspiracy theory to blame WHO for allowing the virus to spread. The CCP are to blame, they're dodgy af, and I think your hate for WHO's handling over this Taiwan situation (which really isn't their fault), is distorting judgment on their handling of COVID-19.

Well that's just one of the more recent things. They don't always act with everyone's best interest in mind. I've been hearing bad stuff about them since I started going to the more serious corners of the internet, which was ca. 2009 so there's that.

[Rio 5,088]

2 minutes ago, Chromatica said:

Well that's just one of the more recent things. They don't always act with everyone's best interest in mind. I've been hearing bad stuff about them since I started going to the more serious corners of the internet, which was ca. 2009 so there's that.

Again, the CCP are to blame for COVID-19. I don't get the shot with Taiwan, but that's clearly down to the UN.

Honestly, I don't much about WHO at all. I'm gonna have to do a bit of research in to this. Because I'm swaying much right now 😂 just sounds like conspiracy bullshit and stuff they can't help. I read a lot of serious corners of the internet too, but didn't realise WHO were disliked by some

[Franch Toast 26,911]

49 minutes ago, Rio said:

Honestly, I was expecting a much more interesting account of why WHO are sooo bad. The Taiwan thing is unfortunate. That's it. I don't think they knew it would be so WIDESPREAD back in December, it had only just started ffs😂 I'm sure they reported on COVID-19 in early January, because I remember reading about it, and declared it an outbreak of public emergency by the end of January. I wouldn't call that necessarily LATE or suppressive, considering China have blatantly withheld so much, and didn't release details on the first cluster of cases until the 31st December. China didn't begin investigations until early January, and the first death was reported on 9th January. I don't think WHO could have done much better, sorry. It's utter conspiracy theory to blame WHO for allowing the virus to spread. The CCP are to blame, they're dodgy af, and I think your hate for WHO's handling over this Taiwan situation (which really isn't their fault), is distorting judgment on their handling of COVID-19.

There were also criticisms of how they handled the ebola crisis, and there are some other things, but I'm more familiar with people's criticisms of their response to the most recent pandemic. 

To be clear, I don't hate the WHO, nor did I ever say that. I was trying to explain some of the criticisms people have. I didn't say they were my personal criticisms necessarily. 

The Taiwan issue is problematic, but that's really on the UN. I agree with what you say about the CCP, and that's actually one criticism that people have of the WHO – they feel that the WHO has kowtowed to the CCP at the expense of global public health. Honestly, I don't know enough about everything to have a strong opinion on this, other than I think Taiwan should be recognized by the UN and thus the WHO. I don't think most people blame the WHO for allowing the virus to spread, though I could be wrong. There are users on this site who are much more knowledgable about the situation, but you'd had to make a separate thread to get their attention, as I can't recall who they are. 

[culturalbaptism 2,922]

Well, I'm not. Just postpone the tour like every other pop act.

[ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY 6,270]

7 hours ago, S0436 said:

I agree but I wouldn’t mind if the music was released on its own and the performances put back to a later date.  Seeing as how it is so uncertain when things will return to normal and music would be a nice escape.

This x10000 .. can’t with everyone thinking one day magically she’s going to be able to execute this era the way she wants to. Until she postpones until 2021 ya’ll will be a lot more unforgiving. I’ll be here to see it 

[RAMROD 109,709]

5 hours ago, littlepotter said:

You mean to say there will be no new music in the world? At all?  don't spread paranoia, let me remind you Gaga debuted and peaked during the last recession so maybe this is her good luck charm

OT: you're completely right and that's what I've been trying to say since.

There will be music but not from Gaga. You know how she is

[UnknownUser71 2,878]

I think it was the right thing to do... 

I mean, we don't want a Glitter/911 situation. This is not her moment to shine. 

The only thing that kinda worries me is the fact that she is going to start to change things, I know how an Aries mind works. She better stay in bed with her man and leave Chromatica alone. 

[March34th 1,973]

I really hope things work out to allow for her to release the album somewhere between late May and early July right before the Chromatica Ball

I hope we get to enjoy the record for the summer. Outside. with friends. at the gay clubs. in the uber on our way to our grindr hookups. i want that for us all f*ck you coronavirus

[not Chromatica 5,393]

7 hours ago, ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY said:

This x10000 .. can’t with everyone thinking one day magically she’s going to be able to execute this era the way she wants to. Until she postpones until 2021 ya’ll will be a lot more unforgiving. I’ll be here to see it 

Well I don't think she's magically gonna pull it off the way she'd planned. I do think that she'll be able to do a lot more later on and I'll take that. Plus, there's just no way this situation is gonna carry on into 2021. They'll find a vaccine / cure eventually, we just gotta be patient, wAsH oUr HaNdS aNd PrAcTiCe SoCiAl DiStAnCiNg.

[adamsenigma 9,520]

6 hours ago, Mister D said:

I think it was the right thing to do... 

I mean, we don't want a Glitter/911 situation. This is not her moment to shine. 

The only thing that kinda worries me is the fact that she is going to start to change things, I know how an Aries mind works. She better stay in bed with her man and leave Chromatica alone. 

Apparently the album has already been delivered to Interscope, like, a few weeks after SL dropped or even earlier. They were working tirelessly by the end of 2019 and January, and BURNS would always talk about deadlines and all that, which makes me think the album was already delivered to the label during the first two weeks of February. I doubt she'll change anything if that's the case + she doesn't have any of her producers there, and they can work online yes but it's not the same obviously, so I bet the album is already at Interscope's hands and nothing can be changed now. 

 

[COOOK 76,406]

Same, I was not envisioning a postponement but as time has gone on I'm glad she did. And also glad she didn't reveal the album cover yet. Can you imagine just looking at the cover all day, with absolutely nothing? It would've felt as tired as when the Stupid Love leak, on hold with this for weeks of silence. We deserve the new, full experience

[ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY 6,270]

5 hours ago, Chromatica said:

Well I don't think she's magically gonna pull it off the way she'd planned. I do think that she'll be able to do a lot more later on and I'll take that. Plus, there's just no way this situation is gonna carry on into 2021. They'll find a vaccine / cure eventually, we just gotta be patient, wAsH oUr HaNdS aNd PrAcTiCe SoCiAl DiStAnCiNg.

A vaccine isn’t going to be available for at LEAST 12 months and that’s if the researchers and scientists continue to get supplies and funding they need AND all phases go as planned which is unlikely. They’re also positing another wave in the fall. So yes there scientifically absolutely is a way this goes on into 2021.

[Fernster7 7,923]

People thinking she will do amazing things when the era resumes. Only if she waits until 2021 and then she'll have another dated album so she will probably scrap it.

[Genuine Guy 09 13,941]

20 hours ago, Chromatica said:

Now, I need to start out by saying that I was not among the little postponers back when the rumors about the delay first started. And I was really angry at the way she announced it, not knowing she was actually planning to back up her statement by donating to WHO / partnering with them. Now that things have settled, I'm really glad she saved this whole experience for later. Looking at all these bedroom concerts and stuff... It's cute and much appreciated in times like these, but I feel like it's more of the same and it's nowhere near the spectacle that this era deserves to be. We're gonna be so fed once all this is through, whenever that might be.

Finally. I was trying to say this ages ago!

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