M.I.A. Comes Out As Antivaxx

[babyboo 965]

8 hours ago, CautiousLurker said:

How is trusting scientists who have done their research = trusting a government too much? Again, you're not saying anything specific, you're just jumping to irrational conclusions based on conspiracies akin to ones shown in hollywood movies... The syphilis study doesn't mean that every government out there is doing this to every single person, and if anything, it proves that if something shady is happening, people WILL find out... 1st world countries haven't exactly made it a habit to continuously test pathogens on its people once the medical field has improved drastically...

So far everything you said is just more fearmongering that puts real people at risk... Also what profit are you talking about? You do realize that making people sick would be a drain on profits, not the other way around... 

Also, if you're ok with people having the right to reject vaccinating their children, you should be ok with people keeping the right to brainwash their kids with harmful ideologies that put others at risk

Because scientists, like many others, can be 'sponsored' by the government as well. And no, making people sick would be HUGE profit for some industries, esp. pharmaceutical.

[ProfessionalClown 10,647]

MIA gonna have her children be Bucky Done Gone if she don't get her **** together 

[Meruk Holland 2,294]

9 hours ago, Cookie Tookie said:

I’m always wary of any person who trusts government so much..

And yes, the government Ultimately  does not care about the people’s health. It’s all about creating something to profit off of or something that can ultimately control its population.  
Additionally, let’s not act like governments all across the world have not done horrific things to its citizens medically for the sake of “improving health”. I automatically think of the Syphillis Tuskegee study, amongst many others.

I’m not saying we need to completely abolish vaccinations. Many work and are important. But the real issue is completely trusting that government wants what’s safest and best for you. People Who so willingfully inject their child with whatever is deemed necessary without doing their research is scary. It’s common knowledge that metals, formaldehyde, fetal remnants are all incorporated in vaccines. 

You are right that metals (such as mercury), formaldehyde, and animal parts are found in certain vaccines. But they aren't there for no reason. Most antivaxxers see the scary-sounding ingredients and leave it at that. They don't explore why they are in the vaccine. Or, if they do, they simply disregard the research, and say that the researchers are working for the government to spread lies.

For example, formaldehyde is used in vaccines to stop the growth of the virulent matter in the vaccine. The vaccine with rat brain matter used it as a way to boost the immune response in the recipient. As for the mercury, it was in a compound known as Thimerosal, and was used as a preservative to protect against bacterial and fungal contamination, however only two vaccines in the US and the EU contain only trace amounts of thimerosal (and on top of that, there is no proof that the volume of thimerosal previously present in vaccines was close enough to have the possibility of having any adverse effects). And as for the human embryo cells used to create a number of vaccines, it's also true. The embryo cells came from elective termination of two pregnancies back in 1960's. Interestingly, the cells from one of the terminations were obtained because the mother had rubella, and there was a very good chance the fetus was infected as well (and it was). The resulting cells were used to create a rubella vaccine, as well as other vaccines such as hepatitis A, shingles, and chickenpox. No newer fetal cells are used. And they originally used the embryo cells because it was the easiest way to create cells that activated the immune response without being infectious. 

They didn't go out and urge the mothers to terminate their pregnancies either, the embryo cells were gathered from refuse. 

[Meruk Holland 2,294]

53 minutes ago, babyboo said:

You do realize these 'qualified professionals' you're talking about can be manipulated / sponsored etc by the government/ people with money right ? There's no way to seperate politics and science in real life it goes hand in hand inevitably. Imo if she wants to not vaccinate our reaction should not be to witch hunt her for her decision but respect it. And let me just say im from a country where 80% or more doesn't vaccinate their kids (and yes, we also happen to not trust government/ authorities very much), and there are NO outbreaks/disseases/etc that occurs bc of that, so i kinda get her point. It's just not worth it.

And what country would that be?

[MJHolland 12,725]

15 hours ago, Didymus said:

It's a very complex issue. I hate that she's taking this to Twitter omg, literally the last possible place you wanna discuss this  

It's literally not complex you MUST be vaccinated! 

There isn't proof that her child got sick because of these vaccines. We must do what we can to ensure the general health of the human race. 

[uo111 5,266]

Yea this issue isn’t complex in that maybe vaccines are good maybe they aren’t.

It’s complex in that people are really ****ing stupid and believe lies and conspiracy theories. 

[Didymus 34,380]

3 hours ago, MJHolland said:

It's literally not complex you MUST be vaccinated! 

There isn't proof that her child got sick because of these vaccines. We must do what we can to ensure the general health of the human race. 

 

3 hours ago, uo111 said:

Yea this issue isn’t complex in that maybe vaccines are good maybe they aren’t.

It’s complex in that people are really ****ing stupid and believe lies and conspiracy theories. 

What I mean is that anti-vaxers have a whole list of arguments that you need to combat in detail, referring to the right scientific sources to convince them. That's not something you're gonna do on Twitter, which is why it's a shame she decided to vent there.

[Kattys 4,319]

14 hours ago, Cookie Tookie said:

I’m always wary of any person who trusts government so much..

And yes, the government Ultimately  does not care about the people’s health. It’s all about creating something to profit off of or something that can ultimately control its population.  
Additionally, let’s not act like governments all across the world have not done horrific things to its citizens medically for the sake of “improving health”. I automatically think of the Syphillis Tuskegee study, amongst many others.

I’m not saying we need to completely abolish vaccinations. Many work and are important. But the real issue is completely trusting that government wants what’s safest and best for you. People Who so willingfully inject their child with whatever is deemed necessary without doing their research is scary. It’s common knowledge that metals, formaldehyde, fetal remnants are all incorporated in vaccines. 

The amount of metals in a single vaccine is much less then you would consume from fish in can protection. So no, this is not about logic arguments, it’s not about trusting government, it’s about lack of knowledge and not trusting science.

[JustHMLover2 706]

I guess she enjoys this new pandemic and wants more of it

[Jill 30,360]

14 hours ago, babyboo said:

You do realize these 'qualified professionals' you're talking about can be manipulated / sponsored etc by the government/ people with money right ? There's no way to seperate politics and science in real life it goes hand in hand inevitably. Imo if she wants to not vaccinate our reaction should not be to witch hunt her for her decision but respect it. And let me just say im from a country where 80% or more doesn't vaccinate their kids (and yes, we also happen to not trust government/ authorities very much), and there are NO outbreaks/disseases/etc that occurs bc of that, so i kinda get her point. It's just not worth it.

I'm sorry but by reading your post it is just obvious you don't really know much about the subject you're talking about.