Adakam 2 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, FeelTheBern said: Most people are influenced by the media it’s a big reason why trump won because of the billions in free advertisement he got in coverage. The media has gone all out in painting Bernie as an evil socialist who’s trying to ruin the country and even if you want to be blind to it that effects voters. Biden is a good little puppet so his billionaire friends let the media portray him in a good light. Bernie isn’t a puppet so they smear his image. Bernie's main core is young people, AKA the ones that use internet instead of MSM TV news, and they didnt vote. Now, you are correct, the media has put Biden on a better light, and they make Bernie look bad, but that doesnt excuse that embarrasing turnout, he wasnt even close to Biden in most states, and he even did worse than 2016, stop looking for someone to blame when its clear that Bernie failed. Mexico's current president, who campaigned 2 times before he won on the 3rd, who ran a semi-socialist, anti-establishment campaign very similar to Bernie, someone with a clean corruption history, someone who got attacked by the rich, by the establishment 24/7, got smeared by EVERYONE on the media, got bots used against him, his fans were smeared as uneducated, entitled people who wanted stuff for free. And he won in a landslide... the more he was smeared the more his fans went out for him, they didnt stay back looking for boogeymen to blame, they didnt stay back complaining, they didnt make excuses, they voted. If Bernie cant inspire the same, its his fault, its his failure, not the establishment's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Lover 868 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Whispering said: That’s straight up BS. No Democrat wants Trump to have four more years. They understand the risks and the long term damage to our country and our democracy. Like any Democrat would come out and actually say it. Like come on, I'm sure you're smarter than this. Bernie is a massive threat to the establishment. An establishment that quite frankly includes both Democrats and Republicans alike. I guess we could just agree to disagree at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,981 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 When even the ( very probably ) future democrat nominee use a smearing term against a democrat opponent... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,838 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Azor Ahai said: Yeah protesting is so toxic. It definitely didn't shape the entire history of the United States and especially of the last 100 years Yeah but it doesn't mean u can expect one to not adress it and ignore it especially when they are clearly being loud and near the front Would u really expect any other candidate to react differently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 From what I remmember, Biden wasnt destroyed by Bernie in the debates. We will see more next week, but Warren and others were the ones who were effective against Biden or Bloomberg, not Bernie. I'm really surprised to see Bernie struggling so much. His inability to attract support outside of his base, losing part of his 2016 support, even now continuing to blame only the others shows that he is a bad candidate. He should drop tonight if he performs as badly as the polls say he will, but I'm not holding my breath that he learn something from 2016. Last week certainly showed that he didnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheBern 371 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Economy said: Yeah but it doesn't mean u can expect one to not adress it and ignore it especially when they are clearly being loud and near the front Would u really expect any other candidate to react differently? Yes I wouldn’t expect a candidate to alienate a decent chunk of the democratic voter base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,838 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, FeelTheBern said: Yes I wouldn’t expect a candidate to alienate a decent chunk of the democratic voter base. Really? If it was someone disrupting Bernie's rally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,562 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, FeelTheBern said: Trumps going to devour this man in debates... I don’t get how the Biden Bro’s can be so ignorant to this. The collapse when they lose to Trump The apocalypse when Trump wins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,562 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Economy said: Really? If it was someone disrupting Bernie's rally? Yes. Yes really after Joe Biden: Female Edition Hillary Clinton called like half the country deplorable. Corporate dems are so sleaux insulting the voters yet again plsss they wanna lose! They just wanna lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,838 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Yes. Yes really after Joe Biden: Female Edition Hillary Clinton called like half the country deplorable. Corporate dems are so sleaux insulting the voters yet again plsss they wanna lose! They just wanna lose. Wait what does this have to do with what I said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,562 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, Economy said: Wait what does this have to do with what I said? Proof that the elite aren’t above insulting the voters. Notice how it was “the voters are too deplorable, stupid, and sexist so that’s why Hillary lost”, and never any self reflection. Hillary’s horrible pro war and anti American job record that harmed millions of Americans actually matters more than her gender - but apparently they can’t see that, which is just... amazing <333 and now Joe is just like Hillary but there’s even more baggage like being homophobic in 2008 and trying to cut SS... plus his sharp mental decline The moderate ticket is such a mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Proof that the elite aren’t above insulting the voters. Notice how it was “the voters are too deplorable, stupid, and sexist so that’s why Hillary lost”, and never any self reflection. Hillary’s horrible pro war and anti American job record that harmed millions of Americans actually matters more than her gender - but apparently they can’t see that, which is just... amazing <333 and now Joe is just like Hillary but there’s even more baggage like being homophobic in 2008 and trying to cut SS... plus his sharp mental decline The moderate ticket is such a mess Bernie is the one who only blame others. Progressives and moderates live in 2 separate worlds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, Chromatic Lover said: Like any Democrat would come out and actually say it. Like come on, I'm sure you're smarter than this. Bernie is a massive threat to the establishment. An establishment that quite frankly includes both Democrats and Republicans alike. I guess we could just agree to disagree at this point. Say what? They want Trump to win? Lol They would vote for a potted plant over Trump! Get out and talk to actual Democrats, not people caught up in a cult of personality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,838 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Proof that the elite aren’t above insulting the voters. Notice how it was “the voters are too deplorable, stupid, and sexist so that’s why Hillary lost”, and never any self reflection. Hillary’s horrible pro war and anti American job record that harmed millions of Americans actually matters more than her gender - but apparently they can’t see that, which is just... amazing <333 and now Joe is just like Hillary but there’s even more baggage like being homophobic in 2008 and trying to cut SS... plus his sharp mental decline The moderate ticket is such a mess I don't disagree with all this but that wasn't my point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Proof that the elite aren’t above insulting the voters. Notice how it was “the voters are too deplorable, stupid, and sexist so that’s why Hillary lost”, and never any self reflection. Hillary’s horrible pro war and anti American job record that harmed millions of Americans actually matters more than her gender - but apparently they can’t see that, which is just... amazing <333 and now Joe is just like Hillary but there’s even more baggage like being homophobic in 2008 and trying to cut SS... plus his sharp mental decline The moderate ticket is such a mess Yet, the working class and Dem voters are coming out and voting for him over your guy. Perhaps it’s the progressive ticket that is a mess, as they are not producing results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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