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:cry: :cry: :emo: :emo: Ke$ha is going to have a hard time reaching the Top 10 ever again... :/

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Honestly, I'm torn on what to think about this whole thing. Both sides of the argument bring up good points. On one hand, it shows that Billboard is able to and will adapt with the changing times. Also, I think to an extent, the addition of YouTube views is a good thing because, in my opinion, it shows public interest moreso than radio. On the other hand, though, the extent that views are factored in unfairly favors artists that get huge first week views, such as Rihanna, Justin Beiber, and the like. However, this will hopefully be good for GaGa, so, given all the factors, I guess I would have to say this is a good thing.

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Actually, Rihanna's Diamonds sold over 55K this week. That's in addition to the over 27K sales of Loveeeeeee Song, over 70K sales of Pour It Up, and Stay's 306K digital sales. A total of almost 458K digital sales for Rihanna this week. Quite impressive.

Anyway, Sweet Nothing is now only less 8K for it to be certified platinum. Finally. :excited2:

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hausofmike

Want U Back tops 2 million

Va Va Voom :legend: Tops 900,000

C'mon 449,900

Catch My Breath goes platinum next week

Fun. Carry On. Goes Gold

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Digital Sales Estimates for the current sales week from itunes figures (3/7 days)

#Position, sales this week, song, artist, (change), [total to date/million]

#1 377K Macklemore & Lewis Thrift Shop (=) [3.890]

#2 334K Baauer Harlem Shake (+1) [0.625]

#3 238K Rihanna ft. Ekko Stay (-1) [0.707]

#4 229K Bruno Mars When I Was Your Man (=) [1.043]

#5 169K Drake Started From the Bottom (+3) [0.396]

#6 146K One Direction OWOA (+10) [0.253]

#7 141K will.i.am ft Britney Scream&Shout (+3) [2.298]

#8 139K Justin Timberlake Suit&Tie (-3) [0.974]

#9 125K Taylor Swift IKYWT (+2) [3.634]

#10 117K The Lumineers Ho Hey (-4) [3.580]

#11 115K Nelly Hey Porche (New)

#12 112K Alicia Keys Girl On Fire (+2) [2.336]

#13 111K Lil Wayne Love Me (+5) [0.660]

#14 110K Mumford & Sons I Will Wait (-7) [1.720]

#15 110K Imagine Dragons Radioactive (+9) [1.048]

#16 104K Maroon 5 Daylight (-1) [1.088]

#17 100K Bruno Mars LOOH (-5) [3.413]

#18 95K Swedish House Mafia DYWC (-1) [1.921]

#19 85K Fun. Carry On (-6) [0.660]

#20 82K Olly Murs Troublemaker (+12) [0.387]

Because itunes only gives relative sales figures, the figures for the week can all be out by the same proportion (typically up to 20%)

Approx this week's sales for Gaga: PF 5.0 K, BR 4.2K; JD 4.2K; BTW 4.2K; TEOG 4.0K; Y+I 3.6K.

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The way to discredit any measure is to keep changing it, and especially to do it without giving anyone notice well in advance that it is going to happen. The Hot 100 has become more about the Billboard committee than it is about the relative merit or popularity of the songs.

Suppose at the end of Olympics 100m final it suddenly came on the screen that the winner was not Usain Bolt, but someone else, because the Olympics committee decided that the victor would be the one with the lowest figure for their time multiplied by their height. It's like that.

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Actually, Rihanna's Diamonds sold over 55K this week. That's in addition to the over 27K sales of Loveeeeeee Song, over 70K sales of Pour It Up, and Stay's 306K digital sales. A total of almost 458K digital sales for Rihanna this week. Quite impressive.

Anyway, Sweet Nothing is now only less 8K for it to be certified platinum. Finally. :excited2:

I really thought it was dead by now. 2 months ago everyone was listening/singing it and now everyone seems to totally forgot about it (at least here)

At least now artists will be inspired to make quality videos.

Not really..

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How much does the YouTube views actually count for?

It says in the Billboard article:

"Shake," in fact, leads the Hot 100 with three-and-a-half times the overall chart points total of "Shop."

Before the change TS was estimated to be getting 60200 chart points vs HS 22300

But for HS to have 3.5x the points of TS it must have about 210700 points which means YouTube contributed about 188400 or 89% of its points.

Another way to look at it is for a song to have matched Harlem Shake on sales alone under the new rules it would have needed about 2.5 million sales in one week... now that would have been something.

At least now artists will be inspired to make quality videos.

Youtube views does not correlate with the quality of the video.

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Honestly, I'm torn on what to think about this whole thing. Both sides of the argument bring up good points. On one hand, it shows that Billboard is able to and will adapt with the changing times. Also, I think to an extent, the addition of YouTube views is a good thing because, in my opinion, it shows public interest moreso than radio. On the other hand, though, the extent that views are factored in unfairly favors artists that get huge first week views, such as Rihanna, Justin Beiber, and the like. However, this will hopefully be good for GaGa, so, given all the factors, I guess I would have to say this is a good thing.

And the old rules "favored" artists who had the most spinned songs on top 40 radio. It's not unfair, it's just how it works. If Rihanna or Justin Bieber have huge first week views, obviously they have one of the most popular songs in that given week and the Hot 100 should reflect that.

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Approx this week's sales for Gaga: PF 5.0 K, BR 4.2K; JD 4.2K; BTW 4.2K; TEOG 4.0K; Y+I 3.6K.

with these weekly updates do you know how left for PF - 7M,TEOG - 3M and BTW - 4M

It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely
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with these weekly updates do you know how left for PF - 7M,TEOG - 3M and BTW - 4M

TEOG and BTW one year +

TEOG isn't even at 2.8m.

PF maybe end of summer

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LUMINEERS ΓƒΒ’Γ’β€šΒ¬Γ’β‚¬Ε“ Stubborn Love: 8.858 (+0.044)

PINK ΓƒΒ’Γ’β€šΒ¬Γ’β‚¬Ε“ Just Give Me A Reason: 5.717 (+0.782)

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