Charts Discussion - 5 weeks until Chromatica

[MANiCURE1295 8,673]

16 minutes ago, Arturo said:

If anyone wants my full unbiased analysis of how Stupid Love is doing / how I think it will do here it is metric by metric.

Sales: Like my good friend @Klou pointed out earlier, Stupid Love is holding on well on iTunes for how little airplay it has in the US. There are countless examples of songs, even leads by big artists, that didn't hold up this well on iTunes with similar airplay numbers. More recently, Heartless by The Weeknd, was not holding up as well with ~30m audience 9-10 days after release:
https://kworb.net/pop/archive/20191206.html

Now before you say oh well he doesn't do well on iTunes he does better on streaming, that makes no sense. He's a pop star whose songs have sold well digitally and whose current single single Blinding Lights has been much more receptive to little airplay during the beginning of its run and is now holding its own with its big airplay gains (~was steady in the Top 10 until SNL boosted it way up).

Conclusion: Stupid Love could be and should be doing a lot worse in digital sales. It's current performance is exceeding expectations

Airplay: There's no other way to define Stupid Love's US airplay reception as anything other than phenomenal. She's going from #28 to most likely #20 tomorrow on Nielsen's Mainstream Top 40 chart. Mind you it took like 5-6 months for Shallow to even reach #19. And stations that refused to playlist it quickly added Stupid Love and are continuing to play it. HAC is on top of it even though it usually takes HAC longer to jump on non-P!nk pop songs like DSN, Circles, etc but they're clearly loving it. 

Conclusion: I don't want to jinx it...but I don't see how this is not her first Top 10 on Pop radio since DWUW and yet another solid Top 5 hit for her on HAC after Shallow and Million Reasons


Streams: I say this completely seriously but I don't think SL's performance on Spotify or even AM is anywhere close to flopping. Could she be doing better? Absolutely. But she's had to survive multiple album bombs (Lil Baby, G Herbo, Bad Bunny, Lil Uzi, Jhene Aiko and it's only been 9 days.) The positions are worrying at first glance but I don't think the actual streams she's pulling are horrible. They're average or maybe a bit under expectations at worst.

Conclusion: Give streaming some time. DSN also had many hills and valleys until it was consistently pushing 16-17m weekly US streams which is a good place for SL to get to once radio picks up more.

Basically, everything I've seen so far is good. Stop worrying.

 Quoting this because it was so good yall had to see it twice. Some of yall need to realize that not every song starts out as a multi week top 10 hit right off the bat from the get go, it takes MASSIVE power to do that. Honestly it's something I think only Adele and Taylor can do right now.

 

Stupid Love is doing just great. I said it this morning and I'll say it again I really think some of you guys had super unrealistic expectations ever with a "pop song" from Gaga. SL on it's 8th day on spotify pulled more #s in the US that PI it in's debut and is still pulling more streams globally. Gaga is doing GREAT on Spotify when you compare it with her history. Some of yall look at Shallow and think that's gonna be the norm forgetting that it took months and months and months of MAJOR PROMOTION AKA A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE to get Gaga as streamed as she was and even then I think Shallow was #19 on the streaming chart when it went #1. Gaga is doing fine and we're getting a Top 5 (most likely) hit in the US tomorrow. Let's be really happy about that.

[Matt B 1,179]

20 minutes ago, ConnorFilm said:

I would hope it would do at least 14k in sales. That’s 2k a day for the next tracking week. 

I can't stop thinking that they shouldn't have removed the single version of itunes, since it was the highest one 

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

Sure it'd be nice if Stoopid Love smashed on all platforms (idk how anyone would expect that anyway, have you heard the song?), but on the bright side, it's worth mentioning how she improved her relationship with streaming services and radio:

- Out of the gate playlist support from both Spotify and AM. We've been waiting for this moment for YEARS.

- Out of the gate radio support. We've been struggling of this for such a long time (Shallow? MR? Perfect Illusion? The Cure?)

[ArtGagaPop 61,940]

1 minute ago, Gypsy Life said:

Sure it'd be nice if Stoopid Love smashed on all platforms (idk how anyone would expect that anyway, have you heard the song?), but on the bright side, it's worth mentioning how she improved her relationship with streaming services and radio:

- Out of the gate playlist support from both Spotify and AM. We've been waiting for this moment for YEARS.

- Out of the gate radio support. We've been struggling of this for such a long time (Shallow? MR? Perfect Illusion? The Cure?)

Have you switched again? 

[Swallow 12,052]

Anyways, hopefully the good sis _Scheisse pulls through and gives us the sales before the article is posted tomorrow so we can relax. I'll have lectures around the time Billboard posts the article but I'll try to take a look at everyone's reactions here.

[Kimblue 7,334]

24 minutes ago, Arturo said:

If anyone wants my full unbiased analysis of how Stupid Love is doing / how I think it will do here it is metric by metric.

Sales: Like my good friend @Klou pointed out earlier, Stupid Love is holding on well on iTunes for how little airplay it has in the US. There are countless examples of songs, even leads by big artists, that didn't hold up this well on iTunes with similar airplay numbers. More recently, Heartless by The Weeknd, was not holding up as well with ~30m audience 9-10 days after release:
https://kworb.net/pop/archive/20191206.html

Now before you say oh well he doesn't do well on iTunes he does better on streaming, that makes no sense. He's a pop star whose songs have sold well digitally and whose current single single Blinding Lights has been much more receptive to little airplay during the beginning of its run and is now holding its own with its big airplay gains (~was steady in the Top 10 until SNL boosted it way up).

Conclusion: Stupid Love could be and should be doing a lot worse in digital sales. It's current performance is exceeding expectations

Airplay: There's no other way to define Stupid Love's US airplay reception as anything other than phenomenal. She's going from #28 to most likely #20 tomorrow on Nielsen's Mainstream Top 40 chart. Mind you it took like 5-6 months for Shallow to even reach #19. And stations that refused to playlist it quickly added Stupid Love and are continuing to play it. HAC is on top of it even though it usually takes HAC longer to jump on non-P!nk pop songs like DSN, Circles, etc but they're clearly loving it. 

Conclusion: I don't want to jinx it...but I don't see how this is not her first Top 10 on Pop radio since DWUW and yet another solid Top 5 hit for her on HAC after Shallow and Million Reasons


Streams: I say this completely seriously but I don't think SL's performance on Spotify or even AM is anywhere close to flopping. Could she be doing better? Absolutely. But she's had to survive multiple album bombs (Lil Baby, G Herbo, Bad Bunny, Lil Uzi, Jhene Aiko and it's only been 9 days.) The positions are worrying at first glance but I don't think the actual streams she's pulling are horrible. They're average or maybe a bit under expectations at worst.

Conclusion: Give streaming some time. DSN also had many hills and valleys until it was consistently pushing 16-17m weekly US streams which is a good place for SL to get to once radio picks up more.

Basically, everything I've seen so far is good. Stop worrying.

Thanks for this!

[Thrasher 22,980]

3 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said:

Didn't Bad Romance kinda smash instantly too. I know it fell in the US second week, but kept increasing the weeks after 

It reached #2 in its 3rd week I think but then again, she was a King Midas, huge sales on her side and radio fully embracing her and giving her 6 #1s in a row on Pop Radio. 

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

1 minute ago, ArtGagaPop said:

Have you switched again? 

I have a love-hate relationship with it. 

[OBEY 57,109]

1 minute ago, Gypsy Life said:

I have a love-hate relationship with it. 

So one day you have taste and the other you don't

[Swallow 12,052]

Everytime I post something that I think is  realistic, you guys think it's negative and then proceed with posts "Of course it wasn't gonna smash right away" "It's doing great!"     

 

 

[Genuine Guy 09 13,941]

Whilst on the topic of the good sis streaming Queen Dua, physical has 45 million views on Youtube. Stupid Love will be less than 10 million away from it tomorrow. I think that's good, seeing as Gaga is not a streaming icon 

[ANTI WP 19,825]

26 minutes ago, Swallow said:

Everytime I post something that I think is  realistic, you guys think it's negative and then proceed with posts "Of course it wasn't gonna smash right away" "It's doing great!"     

 

 

 

Stop screaming 

Start streaming  

[OBEY 57,109]

Can't wait for all those Lil Uzi songs to fall under SL on AM Canada  

[LGMonster95 13,704]

Like I said before, the TRUE test for Stupid Love would be the weeks after the 2nd one (doesn't matter how much it's going to fell on hot 100) if the radios would keep showing this much support then  I'm pretty sure it's going to climb into the top 10 again.

[Swallow 12,052]

Just now, ANTI WP said:

 

Stop screaming 

Start streaming  

I stopped streaming on Spotify using the VPN cuz now whenever I turn on my laptop Chrome automatically opens with a Spotify page telling me it's not available in my location   The streams better count!