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Genuine Guy 09

1:50 - 2:05.. kinda ended A LOT of other girls careers. It should be top 1 for that moment alone 

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Stare at the Chartster in the mirror they talk to me too. #StreamFunTonight
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JustJames
18 minutes ago, Judas Oyster said:

I see but something is better than nothing. I also find it weird that she's only had 10 mins with Zane. Like, that's everything we got. To be Gaga that is weird and uncommon.

Edit: I mean like then even websites, blogs, people at social media would talk about it. It would make the single more alive. More unaware people checking it out etc. More streams and views.

I really am surprised that everyone seems to be okay with the total lack of traditional promo being done by Gaga right now. I cannot be the only one who watches her performances of flops like MTN constantly? Her interviews and performances are what made me fall in love, what helped give life to an era, and sorry, but if artists are releasing CASETTES in 2020, then they clearly understand that there is more to promo than following trends. 

Yes, digital advertising is the most cost-effective means of promo and the fact that SL is going to debut so high shows how well they did in that regard. But, the massive takeovers in Times Square, for example, have an impact beyond direct ROI. It gives a sense that Gaga is a superstar, which she is. 

Certain things need to be done simply to build or maintain a brand or presence, not for pure ROI. Promo that helps explain the concept of Chromatica, serves iconic visuals to help form a unified look to define the era, and includes live performances help create a feeling of purpose, place, and permanency, while feeding us GAGA. I miss her.

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Doncho
10 minutes ago, Max Vandeburg said:

Harry's lead single has only 52M views after 4 months. :poot: I'm not dragging him, just shocked at how weak YouTube is nowadays (even for artists who are doing well on other platforms).

Lets hope SL gets 100M by that time :huntyga:

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Doncho
3 minutes ago, Genuine Guy 09 said:

1:50 - 2:05.. kinda ended A LOT of other girls careers. It should be top 1 for that moment alone 

:huntyga:

Its cute but the gym dance with the yellow tribe at 0:56 remains superior :vegas:

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4 minutes ago, JustJames said:

I really am surprised that everyone seems to be okay with the total lack of traditional promo being done by Gaga right now. I cannot be the only one who watches her performances of flops like MTN constantly? Her interviews and performances are what made me fall in love, what helped give life to an era, and sorry, but if artists are releasing CASETTES in 2020, then they clearly understand that there is more to promo than following trends. 

Yes, digital advertising is the most cost-effective means of promo and the fact that SL is going to debut so high shows how well they did in that regard. But, the massive takeovers in Times Square, for example, have an impact beyond direct ROI. It gives a sense that Gaga is a superstar, which she is. 

Certain things need to be done simply to build or maintain a brand or presence, not for pure ROI. Promo that helps explain the concept of Chromatica, serves iconic visuals to help form a unified look to define the era, and includes live performances help create a feeling of purpose, place, and permanency, while feeding us GAGA. I miss her.

Im sure this will be done eventually, but phew you made some points. This is SO important, especially for the fans. 

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Arturo
25 minutes ago, Gypsy Life said:

Wait at SL climbing back to #97 on AM despite 29 new releases / 2 album bombs on top of the previous 3 album bombs. I thought it'd tumble after it loses its front page exposure today.

-20 on the Hot 100 cancelled?

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2 minutes ago, Arturo said:

-20 on the Hot 100 cancelled?

Maybe -18 only :green:

But I think it'll depend on sales. Those few streams will barely make a difference.

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BuzzcutSeason
4 minutes ago, Arturo said:

-20 on the Hot 100 cancelled?

Is staying within the range of 18 to 23 a decent expectation?

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Spanish Eyes

I think best case scenario is a TEOG-sized hit - longevity and stability over smash factor.

 

I think the worst case scenario (realistically) is like a You and I (poking its head in the top 10 but disappearing after a short stay).

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9 minutes ago, JustJames said:

I really am surprised that everyone seems to be okay with the total lack of traditional promo being done by Gaga right now. I cannot be the only one who watches her performances of flops like MTN constantly? Her interviews and performances are what made me fall in love, what helped give life to an era, and sorry, but if artists are releasing CASETTES in 2020, then they clearly understand that there is more to promo than following trends. 

Yes, digital advertising is the most cost-effective means of promo and the fact that SL is going to debut so high shows how well they did in that regard. But, the massive takeovers in Times Square, for example, have an impact beyond direct ROI. It gives a sense that Gaga is a superstar, which she is. 

Certain things need to be done simply to build or maintain a brand or presence, not for pure ROI. Promo that helps explain the concept of Chromatica, serves iconic visuals to help form a unified look to define the era, and includes live performances help create a feeling of purpose, place, and permanency, while feeding us GAGA. I miss her.

I believe she is Saving big promo for album release week. there is no point in performing stupid love everywhere only for it to start bombing in its 3rd or 4th week. Also gaga is a senior pop girl now she doesn't need to promote all the time.. im glad she is allowing the music to speak for itself this era..  those million performances of MR feel so unnecessary right now because it only smashed after superbowl

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OBEY

I can totally see Apple Music never displaying their streams on their platform, or just actualizing some sort of counter when a song reaches a certain milestone like idk, 10M, 20M, 30M...

Pulling a "music not the charts" :neyde: 

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It's kind of crazy how music videos/YouTube has fallen. I mean, Bad Guy and Old Town Road couldn't even get 1 Billion views. That use to be the standard.. I just hope videos don't become too obsolete. 

1 minute ago, Doncho said:

Its cute but the gym dance with the yellow tribe at 0:56 remains superior :vegas:

Truth. They're probably my fav. :vegas: 

 

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Just now, Spanish Eyes said:

I think best case scenario is a TEOG-sized hit - longevity and stability over smash factor.

 

I think the worst case scenario (realistically) is like a You and I (poking its head in the top 10 but disappearing after a short stay).

Trust me there's worse songs that we're not allowed to speak of other than Y&I the song could perform like 

:billie:

Stare at the Chartster in the mirror they talk to me too. #StreamFunTonight
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