Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Bloomberg 2020 here we go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: I- I mean, its a *good* thing on paper that he's paying them so well and that's good for those people, but this is also kind of a testament to the greed of many CEOs and billionaires that are business people. If its a campaign for something like a presidency or marketing to make more money and increase influence, they are willing to pay them beaucoup bucks, but if it's being an actual worker producing your goods... its starvation wages “I would have my student loans paid off within this calendar year, I would have paid off my credit card debt, the three meals a day– it’s not something you think will ever be an option to you if you’re a young staffer,” she said." Like, this just feels exploitative in intention, and emblematic of a larger problem that we aren't really ready to discuss (*cough* Capitalism *cough*). That being said, wow @ this woman's integrity... The offer must be incredibly tempting, and TBH I can't say I would turn it down. Like, can't I phone bank for Bernie AND be a Bloomberg staffer? I can think of a million better words to describe capitalism than a "problem" Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, UnlikelyStan said: I can think of a million better words to describe capitalism than a "problem" Good for you? 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelusionalGaga 29,734 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Bloomberg's program: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Good for you? Every part of our existence is capitalistic, from the clothes we wear, to the device you’re using to access this forum, to this forum itself. You’re not making any educated argument, you’re not even making a point. Is the world the problem? Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Might I add there would be no Lady Gaga without capitalism. No singles, no album. Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, UnlikelyStan said: Every part of our existence is capitalistic, from the clothes we wear, to the device you’re using to access this forum, to this forum itself. You’re not making any educated argument, you’re not even making a point. Is the world the problem? ^ This in a nutshell Also, yes I believe that major elements of the way the "world works" are problematic and should be changed. I actually think most people would agree that some ways the "world works" aren't beyond reproach 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: So you didn't read where I said that "this feels exploitative" or anything else? It's hate against a system where people who have all the money and resources can selectively decide or decline to pay their employees well or not. Like, if they want you to starve to save money, they can. And if they want to entice people, they can do that as well. That's too much power over people's lives IMO. Also... plenty of billionaires will admit to "being okay with paying more in taxes" or even "eventually giving away a %age of my wealth!" Meanwhile, many of those people in the same breath don't stop taking advantage of tax loopholes, and also don't support a wealth tax like It's because they want to voluntarily give smaller amounts of money out to specific causes, rather than paying their fair share in taxes respective to their income like the rest of America, to be used for causes that would empower all 350 million people in America. It's greed masquerading as kindness. Hate against the system is the same thing as hate against billionaires and probably millionaires. Look. I dont know what he does behind close doors, but on paper I think people want billionaires to act like he acts / he says he acts / others say he acts. If he wins and will show his tax returns, we will know more. Other important thing. He is self made. His father didnt make more than $6000 a year. The greed kindness talk is just hate talk, in my opinion. We dont like when billionaires dont pay their taxes, dont donate money? They are greed. But we dont like them even when they do these things? Well bloomberg. Stop donating your money. Keep it for yourself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_Philanthropies Bottom line. Even in communist China, there are billionaires. They like them. Every country has them. When they stop being a thing in US or anywhere, that's bad news and every measure taken to stop their existence just because some people or politicians dont like billionaires is bad news for the economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ItsTommyBitch said: ^ This in a nutshell Also, yes I believe that major elements of the way the "world works" are problematic and should be changed. I actually think most people would agree that some ways the "world works" aren't beyond reproach Start a business that sells good things for a good cause with good people. Change the world. Don’t complain about it, that’s all I’m saying Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: ^ This in a nutshell Also, yes I believe that major elements of the way the "world works" are problematic and should be changed. I actually think most people would agree that some ways the "world works" aren't beyond reproach No hate, I’m sorry I’d came off aggressive. I’m 22 and I’ve built my business for 6 years now and it means a lot to me. Conscious capitalism is important. Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Also, Bernie supporters should be happy that Bloomberg can stay in the game. He may take votes from Biden and help Bernie win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, UnlikelyStan said: Start a business that sells good things for a good cause with good people. Change the world. Don’t complain about it, that’s all I’m saying Ok boomer. This is really ****ing cringey. You don’t even know the dude and you’re making all kinds of assumptions that he’s just some complainer. So he has to start a business to change the world? Like what are you even trying to say??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Florin said: Also, Bernie supporters should be happy that Bloomberg can stay in the game. He may take votes from Biden and help Bernie win. Oof sis that’s why I want him in the game But honestly it’s only a matter of time before Bloomberg starts direct depositing some cash in exchange for votes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,134 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ItsTommyBitch said: I- I mean, its a *good* thing on paper that he's paying them so well and that's good for those people, but this is also kind of a testament to the greed of many CEOs and billionaires that are business people. If its a campaign for something like a presidency or marketing to make more money and increase influence, they are willing to pay them beaucoup bucks, but if it's being an actual worker producing your goods... its starvation wages “I would have my student loans paid off within this calendar year, I would have paid off my credit card debt, the three meals a day– it’s not something you think will ever be an option to you if you’re a young staffer,” she said." Like, this just feels exploitative in intention, and emblematic of a larger problem that we aren't really ready to discuss (*cough* Capitalism *cough*). That being said, wow @ this woman's integrity... The offer must be incredibly tempting, and TBH I can't say I would turn it down. Like, can't I phone bank for Bernie AND be a Bloomberg staffer? To be fair it's never that simple for a CEO. A CEO is not the sole exclusive owner of a Corporation (there's thousands of shareholders he has to answer to) not to mention other executive board members as well If a CEO tried to be too generous he'd get fired. That means even CEOs that have a heart and wanna be more generous in essence they just aren't allowed to be In this case he doesn't have to answer to other ppl and can choose what to compensate. It's not the same situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Economy said: To be fair it's never that simple for a CEO. A CEO is neither the exclusive owner of a Corporation (there's thousands of shareholders he has to answer to) not to mention other executive board members as well If a CEO tried to be too generous he'd get fired. That means even CEOs that have a heart and wanna be more generous in essence they just aren't allowed to be In this case he doesn't have to answer to other ppl and can choose what to compensate. It's not the same situation They are allowed to be if they can retain majority control and choose a good board of directors! Of course all CEOs are different. Some have 6 shareholders, some are publicly traded. Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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