HorusRa2 5,005 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I don’t know if you guys have been following but Chegg has been polling college students every week for the entire primary. Bernie continues to see gains in this poll at over 41%. Warren, his best competition, is behind by 20 points in this poll. https://www.chegg.com/press/college-election-tracker/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 79,089 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 the way bernie's and warren's lines skew at the end, so satisfying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, weed said: the way bernie's and warren's lines skew at the end, so satisfying. Bernie started to increase immediately after his heart attack and AOC endorsement based off the polling and the graph. I find it very fascinating and I’m sure it has to do with the fact young people respect AOC. Idk if most of them know but AOC was a volunteer in the 2016 Bernie campaign. 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 God, young people just need to have turnout. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 173,175 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Oof. Warren's fall so upsetting. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Warren... Ha fall... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 43,861 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Warren... Ha fall... "****ing rat" - @Dynamite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, PartySick said: Oof. Warren's fall so upsetting. You know it's time to jump ship. Maybe it's time to let the old ways die. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 It doesnt matter if they dont show up to vote or if their numbers are eaten by older voters, which is what happens in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Warren... Ha fall... omg sis... not the AVI I- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, Florin said: It doesnt matter if they dont show up to vote or if their numbers are eaten by older voters, which is what happens in reality. ...So lets make sure they vote then by running someone they want to vote for? I feel like you're just being contrarian in trying to downplay this, as if decreased voter turn out is a positive thing for Democrats 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: ...So lets make sure they vote then by running someone they want to vote for? I feel like you're just being contrarian in trying to downplay this, as if decreased voter turn out is a positive thing for Democrats Voter turn out it's not a positive thing, but it's a reality. Hillary also had the educated people and lost and the poll shows Trump losing by a large margin to any democrat. Now I dont want to turn this into something else, but are you telling me that people who vote one candidate in the primary wont show up to the general or vote Trump? I thought this wasn't something that happened last time , so why it would happen now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, Florin said: Voter turn out it's not a positive thing, but it's a reality. Hillary also had the educated people and lost and the poll shows Trump losing by a large margin to any democrat. Now I dont want to turn this into something else, but are you telling me that people who vote one candidate in the primary wont show up to the general or vote Trump? I thought this wasn't something that happened last time , so why it would happen now? Where do I even start with this Your comment suggested that it doesnt matter if young people like Bernie the most, because they won't vote. I responded - They, like Independents (the largest voting bloc), don't vote if they don't see anyone to support in the general, so it would be a terrible strategic decision to willingly sacrifice a large chunk of an important demographic for no good reason (that would be the result of nominating Joe Biden). Because, no matter how you slice it, in every general election in history, there is going to be a percentage of people who don't vote or vote against the nominee or vote third party when their candidate loses. Every single one 100% of any candidate's support never goes to the nominee. Ever. This includes Buttigieg supporters, Warren, Klobuchar, Yang, etc. The only way to shore this # up is to adopt policies, principles, give positions, and make concessions with that candidate's base. Not doing any of this is guaranteeing a loss of votes. Acting like Bernie supporters are especially likely to do this when facts show that they were better than Obama-Trump voters and Hillary - John McCain voters just makes people look blindly ignorant of the truth because of their own personal biases As of December to Now, the numbers of supporters who would go to Trump if their candidate lost is: Buttigieg: 12% Warren: 10% Biden: 9% Bernie: 4% That's not surprising, since Bernie supporters are either economically left leaning and working class or... the most progressive. It is actually centrists and moderates who would be open to voting for Trump, not progressives https://t.co/V7hiyXn6tL?amp=1 <- for the cross tabs and full results from Emerson if you want It's not that young people will all sit at home. But if you recall, there were more people from key communities in the midwest and across the country overall that just sat back home and didn't vote than that decided to vote in protest or for Donald Trump. THAT is the invisible figure that really lost Hillary the election. "70,000 votes across a few states is what Trump won by" is the narrative, but the reality is that there's hundreds of thousands of people who just didn't vote that normally would have if they liked the candidate, and 2 million people who decided to vote and just leave the top of the ballot empty Hillary should have won by THAT scale of a number difference. Joe Biden and establishment Democrats are trying to play a game of mostly shoring those 70,000 votes up instead of appealing to the millions of potential voters who didn't vote. It's ridiculous. ~~ It is simple: Democrats have a voter turnout problem, and they rely too heavily on a small electorate instead of expanding it. One way to expand it is to appeal to people's actual wants, but they don't do it because the working class wants contradict their corporate interests If the Democratic party returned to being the Working Class party that they were pre Reagan era decentralization, privatization, and deunionizing, they would get back large swathes of the currently Independent vote and also the Youth vote (the intersection between working class and millennials is also multi-racial!) In fact, I believe they would see small gains around almost every demographic, and they might even start winning back some of those coveted "working class white men" they love to say they can never reach. This won't happen by running people like Joe Biden. In fact, it runs the risk of continually reducing our chances of winning national elections in the future if we just keep dissuading people from being engaged in politics by running carbon copy candidates who don't stand for anything. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boneknuckleskin 776 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Good, now if they will just get out and vote they can cancel out all the votes from deplorables who attend MAGA rallies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I guess these are the numbers that the polling leaves out because their voter group is usually more mature. Btw the whole Warren episode has raised fundraising up for Bernie more. Many people have come forth and is using fundraising to support him. Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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