Suuus 5,632 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, GunninMan said: Holy ****... She is gonna be devoured for this because the media loves to make her the villain, but this is such a smart move. The Royal family does not support them so all the more reason to live their own lives. Good for them. Why does the family not support them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Peters 10,796 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Suuus said: Why does the family not support them? American, bi-racial, doesn’t conform to the ‘standards’ of the royal family. Think of how they treated Diana, but with racism. Also tabloids/people on insta love to drag her for...whatever reason. There’s a few British members on here who drag her too, but you know emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah H 4,480 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 They didn't even tell the Queen of their decision, this is gonna get messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander 14,944 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Nobody does that and you know that. Nobody does that, nobody does that, and you just did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,067 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sarah H said: They didn't even tell the Queen of their decision, this is gonna get messy. its what that old crone deserves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, nenhures said: Good. Dismantle the entire royal family while we're at it. It's 2020 ffs. Monarchic values ain't it. they’re just a tourist attraction/figureheads with titles lol why y’all so mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, FentyGa said: they’re just a tourist attraction/figureheads with titles lol why y’all so mad Because they represent Britain's history of colonialist and imperialist behavior and are leeches that feed off of the average person's money, besides the concept of having a group of people that's revered by the rest of the population and considered "royal" and superior is outdated and oppressive. The fact that they're just a tourist attraction/figureheads should only encourage the dismantlement of the royal family. There's nothing beneficial about their status unless one's only motivation is greed and class inequality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This is such a slap to Britain. These two are low class and want to live and parade around like celebrities. No sense of duty, honor or respect. So they want to live in Canada and flit around and make money off their foundation. Is anyone investigating this foundation? This really brings down the RF. To me, the family looks really seedy and hedonistic. Yuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I used to think the idea of having a royal family was archaic, but I appreciate Stephen Fry's take on why it has value. Choosing to see the royal family as representing the evils of colonialism is like choosing to see Uncle Sam representing Japanese interment camps and Jim Crow. A national symbol isn't just a symbol of the evil that nation has done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaplayer315 14,724 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 How about they all step back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 15,717 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I knew it would happen but didn't expect it to be this soon. Moving to Canada is likely just a ruse to make them look less bad because it's not a "showbiz" place, is cold in the winter and is a Commonwealth territory. But we all know Meghan's real sights are on LA, land of celebrity worship and year-round sunshine. Canada's just to help them get to where they really want. Or should I say, what she wants. It's clear she's calling all the shots. Harry was never about celebrity, branding and branching out on your own before she came along. She's finally successfully alienated him from his family. From refusing the Queen's invitation to Balmoral and Christmas at the palace, causing a rift between him and William, taking occasional several week long vacations from public duty...it was all to pull him away from his family and those he'd been close to for years. Its clear from Meghan's slow but steady pushing of herself into non-royal things like starting a clothing line and editing Vogue that she's been planning this for months, possibly since the beginning: marry him, stick it out for about a year and then make plans to break away and cash in on the newfound fame that has come with marrying into royalty. Social climbing doesn't even begin to cover it. What's sad is that a child is involved in all of this. I hope he can have as grounded a life as possible given the circumstances. The British and Canadian taxpayers better not spend a penny on them but we are, at least initially. This is a transitionary period and they're still planning on having private security which definitely comes from our money. They have to make up their minds which way they want to go - 100% royals with all the trappings that come with that or 100% independent, private citizens and all the trappings that come with that. NO IN BETWEEN. The Queen should strip them of their royal titles immediately for the massive disrespect they've shown the crown by not telling anyone and being ungrateful for everything they received. Let's see how long Meghan sticks around if Harry's no longer a royal. Then we'll see how genuine she truly was. I'm not a royalist, not by any stretch, but to see what the Queen has had to endure in the last few years with her husband being in ill health, Andrew's scandal and now this pair going behind her back and disgracing the family with no regard for anyone has given me a newfound respect for her and I hope she can recover from all this and cut off anyone who's bringing the royals down. Cut down the royal house and put William and Kate at the forefront. The Queen doesn't need any more nonsense at her age. Oh, and they announced all this on this on the evening before Kate's birthday. Because having the spotlight on you is all the more delicious when it's taken off someone else. 19 hours ago, GunninMan said: Holy ****... She is gonna be devoured for this because the media loves to make her the villain, but this is such a smart move. The Royal family does not support them so all the more reason to live their own lives. Good for them. She doesn't need to be made out to be a villain, she is one. She hustled her way into the royal family and alienated her husband from everyone he loved. That doesn't even touch on all the friends she ditched over the years when they were no longer of use to her and the ex husband who she mailed her wedding ring to as a way of announcing she wanted a divorce. And the ill father who loved her and provided for her who she cast adrift and acts like he doesn't exist. And the the royals gave her everything - a mini mansion, a multi-million pound wedding, royal protection, royal budget, top billing for royal duties and appearances. They have given in to her every whim including her baby shower in New York, the low-key announcement of Archie, her decision to edit Vogue, her right to travel to America whenever she liked to watch Serena play tennis. She was given amazingly free rein for a non-royal American who'd been in the family for all of 2 minutes. If anything, I'm surprised they supported her as much as they did. She was the one who never supported them, snubbing royal engagements that weren't "fun" while on maternity leave (she couldn't attend a state dinner but could turn up to the Lion King premiere, which Harry had to miss a memorial service for), turning down the Queen's invitations with excuses like "Archie's too young to fly" (even though she took him abroad and yet he couldn't go on a mere flight further north in the UK?) and trying to further her own interests by engaging in non-royal activities meant for personal gain. She has never given any indication that she truly wanted to be a full-time member of their family and the fact she couldn't even try for a full 2 years since marrying Harry tells you everything. 19 hours ago, Glamourpuss said: I saw this coming. Hopefully the rest of the royal family will follow suit but they aren't as "normal" and down to earth as Harry so it won't ever happen. It's not about being normal and down to earth, it about serving your duty to the crown and respecting the people who pay your lifestyle. Most royals know they wouldn't adapt to normal civilian life so they stay royal, suck it up and deal with all the duty that comes with that, which is admirable. This isn't an institution that you enter without doing your research. Meghan was fast-tracked in, wasn't given time to adapt and it was clear that this wasn't what she wanted so she had to bail. That's not being down to earth, that's just not trying. You have to realise that there's no abdication here, they're keeping their royal titles, funds and taxpayer-funded security. They're not giving it all up and becoming private citizens who don't want to be reported on. They're wanting to be celebrities without the restrictions of royal life. That's the opposite of being down to earth, it's being fame seeking. Not to mention, having your cake and eating it. 18 hours ago, Suuus said: Why does the family not support them? They have supported them enormously, read the reply I made to the user two replies up from this one. 18 hours ago, Evan Peters said: American, bi-racial, doesn’t conform to the ‘standards’ of the royal family. Think of how they treated Diana, but with racism. Also tabloids/people on insta love to drag her for...whatever reason. There’s a few British members on here who drag her too, but you know Are you kidding? America is all about black and white, it sometimes seems like all they go on about. Regardless of what we're told to believe, the UK as a whole never held Meghan's race against her, all the criticisms levelled at her never had anything to do with race and could have been applied to anyone. And they're very good reasons too. But I've noticed that Americans never seem to understand why we take such a dislike to her because they've never had a royal family and don't get what it stands for. Maybe if your money was going towards this woman and her lavish lifestyle of designer clothes she only wears once and private jets, you'd be a bit put out too. 17 hours ago, ZiggyZiggs said: its what that old crone deserves That's an awful, ageist thing to say about the Queen. What's she ever done to warrant that? 17 hours ago, nenhures said: Because they represent Britain's history of colonialist and imperialist behavior and are leeches that feed off of the average person's money, besides the concept of having a group of people that's revered by the rest of the population and considered "royal" and superior is outdated and oppressive. The fact that they're just a tourist attraction/figureheads should only encourage the dismantlement of the royal family. There's nothing beneficial about their status unless one's only motivation is greed and class inequality. We're in the present, not the past. They can't help what they were born into. I respect the ones who actually have jobs and give back. Not all of them have children with titles who are given taxpayer money either. Love them or hate them, they're a strong piece of Britain's identity and a huge draw for our economy. They pull in millions every year from tourism. Our culture would change in next level ways if they were dismantled as their influence is felt throughout so much of our lives, even if we're not royalists. Don't you not care about a country losing part of their culture and heritage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,034 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 USA won. Down with the monarchy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 "Financially independent" aka become celebrities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Ugh as long as this makes it into the last season of The Crown im okay with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 42,258 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said: I knew it would happen but didn't expect it to be this soon. Moving to Canada is likely just a ruse to make them look less bad because it's not a "showbiz" place, is cold in the winter and is a Commonwealth territory. But we all know Meghan's real sights are on LA, land of celebrity worship and year-round sunshine. Canada's just to help them get to where they really want. Or should I say, what she wants. It's clear she's calling all the shots. Harry was never about celebrity, branding and branching out on your own before she came along. She's finally successfully alienated him from his family. From refusing the Queen's invitation to Balmoral and Christmas at the palace, causing a rift between him and William, taking occasional several week long vacations from public duty...it was all to pull him away from his family and those he'd been close to for years. Its clear from Meghan's slow but steady pushing of herself into non-royal things like starting a clothing line and editing Vogue that she's been planning this for months, possibly since the beginning: marry him, stick it out for about a year and then make plans to break away and cash in on the newfound fame that has come with marrying into royalty. Social climbing doesn't even begin to cover it. What's sad is that a child is involved in all of this. I hope he can have as grounded a life as possible given the circumstances. The British and Canadian taxpayers better not spend a penny on them but we are, at least initially. This is a transitionary period and they're still planning on having private security which definitely comes from our money. They have to make up their minds which way they want to go - 100% royals with all the trappings that come with that or 100% independent, private citizens and all the trappings that come with that. NO IN BETWEEN. The Queen should strip them of their royal titles immediately for the massive disrespect they've shown the crown by not telling anyone and being ungrateful for everything they received. Let's see how long Meghan sticks around if Harry's no longer a royal. Then we'll see how genuine she truly was. I'm not a royalist, not by any stretch, but to see what the Queen has had to endure in the last few years with her husband being in ill health, Andrew's scandal and now this pair going behind her back and disgracing the family with no regard for anyone has given me a newfound respect for her and I hope she can recover from all this and cut off anyone who's bringing the royals down. Cut down the royal house and put William and Kate at the forefront. The Queen doesn't need any more nonsense at her age. Oh, and they announced all this on this on the evening before Kate's birthday. Because having the spotlight on you is all the more delicious when it's taken off someone else. She doesn't need to be made out to be a villain, she is one. She hustled her way into the royal family and alienated her husband from everyone he loved. That doesn't even touch on all the friends she ditched over the years when they were no longer of use to her and the ex husband who she mailed her wedding ring to as a way of announcing she wanted a divorce. And the ill father who loved her and provided for her who she cast adrift and acts like he doesn't exist. And the the royals gave her everything - a mini mansion, a multi-million pound wedding, royal protection, royal budget, top billing for royal duties and appearances. They have given in to her every whim including her baby shower in New York, the low-key announcement of Archie, her decision to edit Vogue, her right to travel to America whenever she liked to watch Serena play tennis. She was given amazingly free rein for a non-royal American who'd been in the family for all of 2 minutes. If anything, I'm surprised they supported her as much as they did. She was the one who never supported them, snubbing royal engagements that weren't "fun" while on maternity leave (she couldn't attend a state dinner but could turn up to the Lion King premiere, which Harry had to miss a memorial service for), turning down the Queen's invitations with excuses like "Archie's too young to fly" (even though she took him abroad and yet he couldn't go on a mere flight further north in the UK?) and trying to further her own interests by engaging in non-royal activities meant for personal gain. She has never given any indication that she truly wanted to be a full-time member of their family and the fact she couldn't even try for a full 2 years since marrying Harry tells you everything. It's not about being normal and down to earth, it about serving your duty to the crown and respecting the people who pay your lifestyle. Most royals know they wouldn't adapt to normal civilian life so they stay royal, suck it up and deal with all the duty that comes with that, which is admirable. This isn't an institution that you enter without doing your research. Meghan was fast-tracked in, wasn't given time to adapt and it was clear that this wasn't what she wanted so she had to bail. That's not being down to earth, that's just not trying. You have to realise that there's no abdication here, they're keeping their royal titles, funds and taxpayer-funded security. They're not giving it all up and becoming private citizens who don't want to be reported on. They're wanting to be celebrities without the restrictions of royal life. That's the opposite of being down to earth, it's being fame seeking. Not to mention, having your cake and eating it. They have supported them enormously, read the reply I made to the user two replies up from this one. Are you kidding? America is all about black and white, it sometimes seems like all they go on about. Regardless of what we're told to believe, the UK as a whole never held Meghan's race against her, all the criticisms levelled at her never had anything to do with race and could have been applied to anyone. And they're very good reasons too. But I've noticed that Americans never seem to understand why we take such a dislike to her because they've never had a royal family and don't get what it stands for. Maybe if your money was going towards this woman and her lavish lifestyle of designer clothes she only wears once and private jets, you'd be a bit put out too. That's an awful, ageist thing to say about the Queen. What's she ever done to warrant that? We're in the present, not the past. They can't help what they were born into. I respect the ones who actually have jobs and give back. Not all of them have children with titles who are given taxpayer money either. Love them or hate them, they're a strong piece of Britain's identity and a huge draw for our economy. They pull in millions every year from tourism. Our culture would change in next level ways if they were dismantled as their influence is felt throughout so much of our lives, even if we're not royalists. Don't you not care about a country losing part of their culture and heritage? Ma’am, it’s not that deep. They just don’t f*ck with the rest of the family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.