Chart Discussion

[Teal Ambition 47,805]

 

[Andreu 37,216]

1 hour ago, Thrasher said:

Just to mention a few of those bops

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the post I was quoting talked about EDM DJs (artists, not songs) who only got bigger because of Gaga's impact and now are fads. I still want to know which DJs did he have in mind, because I can't think of any.

[Andreu 37,216]

Just now, Teal Ambition said:

 

which are 23.8k more than if she cancelled it, which was what a lot of us were expecting so I see this as a win

let's see if it manages to hold on decently

[emig09 24,701]

Why the Meghan decrease? What happened I did not notice 

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[Teal Ambition 47,805]

 

[Thrasher 22,980]

9 minutes ago, Andreu said:

the post I was quoting talked about EDM DJs (artists, not songs) who only got bigger because of Gaga's impact and now are fads. I still want to know which DJs did he have in mind, because I can't think of any.

Mmm I'd say David Guetta maybe had it easier thanks to Gaga's success as well. 

I think Gaga mostly influenced musical direction for artists/songs during those years by bringing back electropop and synths to the mainstream scene, just throwing an input for EDM which was developed at its fullest by other artists/DJs later (2012-13). So yeah, she paved the way for them, but saying she's responsible for EDM boom is a bit of a stretch. She surely was ahead of her times though, considering she started working on ARTPOP in late 2011. 

[IAmNotHere1997 25,824]

Sales are completely DEAD

Poker Face was effortlessly pulling these numbers in early 2012 as a recurrent song 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

23 minutes ago, Andreu said:

the post I was quoting talked about EDM DJs (artists, not songs) who only got bigger because of Gaga's impact and now are fads. I still want to know which DJs did he have in mind, because I can't think of any.

Zedd, Calvin Harris, the Chainsmokers

4 minutes ago, Thrasher said:

So yeah, she paved the way for them, but saying she's responsible for EDM boom is a bit of a stretch

Gaga was credited by numerous DJs for bringing EDM into the mainstream. Of course they overtook her by 2013, but she definitely had a hand in their rise.

Basically, all I’m saying is 2013-15 (while Gaga was being branded “over”) saw a rise to many acts that are no longer enjoying any success right now.

[Teal Ambition 47,805]

Also #49 on BB200 in Canada

[ferretti 5,808]

22 hours ago, DeanWinchester said:

I don't think she can do a proper world tour so on top of North America + Europe, she can have 5-8 Australian dates, 3 spread out among Singapore, Tokyo and Seoul. Tel Aviv can probably bring her a huge crowd. Brazil needs a Rock in Rio redemption.

Is she still big in South Africa? I'm not sure if she could/should touch Africa for a tour.

I dunno, but I saw BTWB in Johannesburg and the stadium was massive and the excitement was the most I've ever felt at a Gaga show. I feel even if she's fallen off these past few years she could sell out a stadium on the return hype alone. Plus, Shallow and ARUTW are still in the top 100 on SA iTunes, so I feel ASIB did pretty well there too.

[Thrasher 22,980]

Lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper - Shallow (A Star Is Born)

2020/02/02 - 561,461
2020/02/03 - 478,430
2020/02/04 - 545,349 2020/02/05 - 581,033
2020/02/06 - 538,612
2020/02/07 - 495,910
2020/02/08 - 596,711
2020/02/09 - 781,939

Lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper - Shallow (From A Star Is Born/Live From The Oscars)

2020/02/02 - 274,809
2020/02/03 - 215,163
2020/02/04 - 225,645
2020/02/05 - 235,009
2020/02/06 - 218,142
2020/02/07 - 211,327
2020/02/08 - 277,091
2020/02/09 - 376,905

Bonus: one week later, Gaga's SuperBowl (on her VEVO) is still her 5th video with the highest daily average. Miss Gaga dominating February/awards season without even showing up 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

43 minutes ago, Thrasher said:

Mmm I'd say David Guetta maybe had it easier thanks to Gaga's success as well. 

I think Gaga mostly influenced musical direction for artists/songs during those years by bringing back electropop and synths to the mainstream scene, just throwing an input for EDM which was developed at its fullest by other artists/DJs later (2012-13). So yeah, she paved the way for them, but saying she's responsible for EDM boom is a bit of a stretch. She surely was ahead of her times though, considering she started working on ARTPOP in late 2011. 

The EDM boom was inevitable. Dance music had been dead for nearly 2 decades, and pop music was already becoming very electronic and dancey by 2007/2008 (eg Janet Jackson’s Discipline, Kylie Minogue’s X or Britney’s Blackout album).

So retrospectively we can see how Gaga - as a new artist unaffiliated with any previous genres - by having her first two songs (both of which very synth and club heavy) hit number 1 she got credited with leading that fusion of pop with dance/electronic music that had virtually disappeared in the US charts since the mid 90s. Macarena was prob the last massive dance song in the US until Just Dance in 2008.

So she wasn’t the only one, but because she was brand new, mysterious and super massive she sort of became the poster girl for what would be coined “EDM” by rock magazines like Rolling Stone in 2010-2011, which essentially was just a fusion of underground dance and mainstream pop made into a 3-4 minute radio format. Even though ironically by 2010, just as EDM was taking off Gaga had already moved on to 80s rock for her next album, what would become Born This Way.

True EDM however (before the term was created) was stuff like Eric Prydz, Deadmau5 and Bodyrox from the 2000s, and was very underground and as far away from pop as you could get. It was anti-pop, with tracks that were 8-11 minutes long and mainly remixes of indie rock songs from bands like The Killers, Interpol and LCD Soundsystem. 

But as music festivals got more and more popular, these DJs switched from remixing obscure indie rock songs to hip hop songs, so much so that by 2008 the underground was spilling over into the masses. Kanye collabed with Daft Punk in 2007. By 2009 Akon and Kelly Rowland were doing collabs with David Guetta. By 2011-2013 EDM was peaking in radio success with many hip-hop/EDM crossover songs becoming successful, and then by 2014 all the subgenres like trap, tropical, deep house, dubstep were starting to fracture EDM as a singular entity.

Oh how time flies...

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

13 minutes ago, ferretti said:

Plus, Shallow and ARUTW are still in the top 100 on SA iTunes, so I feel ASIB did pretty well there too.

That's good to know. One date may be possible.

[zoldyck 2,117]

Gaga's Spotify streams

 

week(7 Feb -  14 Feb):

Fri: 7,413,588,878(+5,961,283)

Sat: 7,419,731,249 (+6,142,371)

Sun: 7,430,490,452 (+10,759,203)*

 

*The update is impossibly high, its either they included new remix or something which wasn't on her page previously or i made a mistake somewhere