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LGMonster95
11 minutes ago, BenG said:

I've listened to SL less than 10 times and don't think it's a really good song. However, I can't deny its catchiness. It's a freaking earworm that comes back too often :saladga:

Which is exactly what Gaga needs as a single. People already knows that she has a great voice and can make great ballads, this song could be an opportunity for her to get into the younger audience aswell. I'm also not the biggest fan of this song but it can work very well

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Thrasher

A normal radio deal, 75k sales and 30M streams should add up to 300 points (according to what @Gypsy Life told me some days ago :hor:).

He also said that PI would debut with 222 points following the current formula (#10-#11 for last week).

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viniferrett
3 minutes ago, OBEY said:

If i don’t like Stupid Love i’ll be bopping to Kesha and Dua’s 3 most récent songs so tbh i really don’t care much when i think about it :lmao: 

you didn't hear it yet? 

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8 minutes ago, TEANUS said:

Wonder how many sales, streams, AI, etc. that amounts to :oprah:

I know not exactly how it’s all calculated just some general numbers, etc. not like Gypsy Life, Arturo, etc.

Probably something like 30M radio audience,

25M streams

25k sales

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3 minutes ago, Ally Campana said:

Well let’s hope for the best. He estimated Shallow at 193 points during its first full week and that was when it reached #5. It’s more competitive now unless the Top 10 loses its points before Feb 7. However, with that said, I think SL is guaranteed a top 10 debut IF it comes with the video and has proper promo. I mean Gaga could reach the top 5 coming off of the Joanne era and this time she’s coming off of ASIB era which was magnifico. It all depends on the roll out.

Shallow didn’t have a radio deal or a MV 

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Thrasher
2 minutes ago, Ally Campana said:

Well let’s hope for the best. He estimated Shallow at 193 points during its first full week and that was when it reached #5. It’s more competitive now unless the Top 10 loses its points before Feb 7. However, with that said, I think SL is guaranteed a top 10 debut IF it comes with the video and has proper promo. I mean Gaga could reach the top 5 coming off of the Joanne era and this time she’s coming off of ASIB era which was magnifico. It all depends on the roll out.

Shallow was non-existent on radio iirc though, and let’s hope that the playlisting would be more consistent this time around (they promoted INLA at first). 

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25 minutes ago, Teal Ambition said:

I'm so hyped for the music video :excited2:

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Ugh me too! I feel like it's gonna be similar to Buttons but with water instead of fire :diane:

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Ally Campana

@TEANUS this is Simon’s formula after the BB rule change in weight for some chart components. 

 

Does it matter? Damage is done
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How important are radio deals tbh?

The first three days don't count for the debut week. Unless the AI is so significant that it really drives streams and sales

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TEANUS
6 minutes ago, Ally Campana said:

Well let’s hope for the best. He estimated Shallow at 193 points during its first full week and that was when it reached #5. It’s more competitive now unless the Top 10 loses its points before Feb 7. However, with that said, I think SL is guaranteed a top 10 debut IF it comes with the video and has proper promo. I mean Gaga could reach the top 5 coming off of the Joanne era and this time she’s coming off of ASIB era which was magnifico. It all depends on the roll out.

Obviously we don’t have the top 10 on lock for a Gaga lead anymore but even the realist in me definitely thinks she’s got a big shot if a MV truly comes the same day and the Spotify/ AM promo is on point. We’ve seen extremely good moments and pretty bad moments in terms of streaming promo from Bobby so yes, like you said, all depends on the rollout.

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However, the true Gaga stan in me feels that with her streaming being HEAVILY improved in the past two years and the GP’s recent perception being so positive that we got the top 10 in the bag

 

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Ally Campana
3 minutes ago, OBEY said:

Shallow didn’t have a radio deal or a MV 

Yes. And it still could hit the top 5 in its first full week. That’s why they need to get everything ready for SL.

 

2 minutes ago, Thrasher said:

Shallow was non-existent on radio iirc though, and let’s hope that the playlisting would be more consistent this time around (they promoted INLA at first). 

Radio really did Shallow dirty. As outdated as it is, we need a radio hit for longevity. So that’s why Gaga’s team really need to come through.

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