Antichrist 9,818 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, GhettoFabulous said: transGENDER! Just because the gender isn’t within the binary system doesn’t mean it isn’t trans(across/cross)GENDER and please if you were following the original conversation you’d understand where this discussion started lol ohh, okay. i'm a bit confused now, basically anyone can transition from day to day if they feel like it? you do realize how much harm this could do to the ACTUAL people who suffer from being trans, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoFabulous 18,501 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Antichrist said: ohh, okay. i'm a bit confused now, basically anyone can transition from day to day if they feel like it? you do realize how much harm this could do to the ACTUAL people who suffer from being trans, right? I am actually trans and it makes actual sense it doesn’t seem harmful at all lol not all of us want to model our lives after cis people Educate yourself some more on trans terminology and issues I’m done arguing with gays about transgender things but enjoy your day x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, GhettoFabulous said: transGENDER! Just because the gender isn’t within the binary system doesn’t mean it isn’t trans(across/cross)GENDER and please if you were following the original conversation you’d understand where this discussion started lol people are born with either male or female brains, trans people are born with the brain of the opposite gender of the sex they were born as, gender is pretty binary, gender expression is not binary though, and gender expression and gender identity are very differant Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoFabulous 18,501 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, LadariousGarage said: gatekeeping, nobody here is gatekeeping at all lol, we are literally going by scientific facts, based off of thousands of studies, its science, Did I anywhere say gender dysphoria isn’t valid? Hmmm I’m someone that was actually diagnosed with it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, GhettoFabulous said: Did I anywhere say gender dysphoria isn’t valid? Hmmm I’m someone that was actually diagnosed with it.... no you didn't, I wasn't saying you did, Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, GhettoFabulous said: I am actually trans and it makes actual sense it doesn’t seem harmful at all lol not all of us want to model our lives after cis people Educate yourself some more on trans terminology and issues I’m done arguing with gays about transgender things but enjoy your day x i'm glad it makes actual sense for you, it would be nice if that actual sense could be explained, you know, to make actual sense. nobody is asking you to model your life after anyone, trust me, you're not that important. i've talked with people who are trans before, still do, because i was genuinely interested in how all of this works, what's the basis for it and why the need to transition. and then i noticed that a lot of people who nowadays identify as this or that or whichever they prefer (which is a problem in itself, your gender isn't something you prefer, your gender is your gender, it's who you are, what your brain is wired to) are doing an extreme amount of harm, whether it be individuals as Yaniv (pointed out a few posts ago), or on the community as a whole, making the general public not take anyone of T community seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanybb 1,235 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 As a trans girl I feel like there needs to be a strong definitive outline on what a trans woman is. If you don't medically transition (through hormones) you aren't trans. I also feel like doctors shouldn't be giving out hormone prescriptions out to anyone who asks. There needs to be some kind of thorough medical evaluation. If you were really trans you'd want to see a change in your physical body to the body of the gender you identify with. Doesn't make any sense to me if you don't choose to? I took this from a joint research article by a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry & a Psychiatrist . "Transsexual is a historic, medical term that refers to individuals who have undergone some form of medical and/or surgical treatment for gender reassignment (historically referred to as sex reassignment)" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, GhettoFabulous said: I am actually trans and it makes actual sense it doesn’t seem harmful at all lol not all of us want to model our lives after cis people Educate yourself some more on trans terminology and issues I’m done arguing with gays about transgender things but enjoy your day x as someone who is seeing a gender identity therapist for gender dysphoria, it is harmful and it is harmful for a lot of people questioning, or cis people who think they are trans when they are not and will transition, and end up detransition because it was the wrong choice it is harmful period. Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, beabeaxo5 said: Sorry but this idea opens doors for people who are fetishists and predators such as Jessica Yaniv among others. You didn't listen. It is not your place to tell someone if they are trans or not. That is not your job, that is theirs. Point blank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, LadariousGarage said: by this logic I could say I have cancer, doesn't mean I actually have cancer, but you shouldn't approve if I have cancer based on my medical status Trans people have a medical condition that is called gender dysphoria, it is debilitating for many trans people, and the only treatment is transitioning Not every trans person has body dysmorphia! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadariousGarage 1 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, PhillipBagshaw said: Not every trans person has body dysmorphia! ...but they all have gender dysphoria Lets do it baby I know the Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Glamourpuss said: I think he has a bad case of body dysmorphia. This causes the sufferer to view themselves as looking more hideous than they actually are because their perception of themselves is warped. It would be helpful if you could show kindness and understanding. I think it's sad that's he's never been happy with himself and constantly feels the need to go under the knife. I'm not going to drag the poor soul. I hope she (I realised I used the wrong pronoun) finds happiness. It would be helpful if you used HER correct pronouns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Antichrist said: he came out as trans. we are talking about trans people. Nonbinary people are trans. Simply put, the sociological definition of a transgender person is someone whose gender does not align with the one that they were assigned at birth. This includes nonbinary people. Also, her pronouns are SHE and HER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, LadariousGarage said: people are born with either male or female brains, trans people are born with the brain of the opposite gender of the sex they were born as, gender is pretty binary, gender expression is not binary though, and gender expression and gender identity are very differant Gender isn't binary and neither is sex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhillipBagshaw said: Nonbinary people are trans. Simply put, the sociological definition of a transgender person is someone whose gender does not align with the one that they were assigned at birth. This includes nonbinary people. Also, her pronouns are SHE and HER. where can i look up some scientific proof that nonbinary, first of all, exists, and that those said people are trans? would be a nice read, thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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