Buttigieg: Founders didn’t understand slavery was bad

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They understood it fully well and agreed with it. Yes, more people back then thought slavery was okay but it doesn't mean they didn't know what it was.

They knew exactly what slavery is and agreed it was okay. 

Can't wait for Little Buttplugs to defend this. 

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Morphine ur back!!!!!

 

I'm not gonna comment on OP because it's a political thread as I said, but like @Woolfsmck I had to say hello because u were gone!!!!

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Framers: smart enough to establish a democratic republic and write a constitution. 

Also framers: apparently dumb enough not to understand slavery means ownership over another person who isn't considered human simply because of skin. 

And people wonder why he has 0% approval among African Americans.

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Despite it being "normal" back then, plenty of people, some founders included, knew that owning people was bad

Oh Pete

So we can choose between the gaff machine VP, the tone deaf mayor, Warren, or Sanders.

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1 minute ago, Economy said:

Morphine ur back!!!!!

 

I'm not gonna comment on OP because it's a political thread as I said, but like @Woolfsmck I had to say hello because u were gone!!!!

I’m not “back” to posting regularly, I check GGD at least once a day! Thanks for the welcome though 

 

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Nope, they knew quite well that it was wong, and also that the issue of enslaving other humans would end up becoming a huge problem.

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3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

I’m not “back” to posting regularly, I check GGD at least once a day! Thanks for the welcome though 

 

Oh ok. Well I stopped political posting all together (at least for now) cuz I had enough

 

But i haven't left the site

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Half and half.

 

Some wrote that they saw nothing wrong with it, because they believed their slaves were “less than human”

 

Others fundamentally recognized it was wrong

 

 

This isn't that problematic of a statement though. He misunderstood the perception of race in the colonial era. It’s not like he said “they didn’t know any better”. He was just articulating why it was difficult to overcome bc of SOME people’s opinions about people of color. 

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

Oh ok. Well I stopped political posting all together (at least for now) cuz I had enough

 

But i haven't left the site

Nah, I’m just popping in whenever something I think is significant happens. I’m avoiding the other toxic parts of this forum. World News section is the main reason I come in here anyway since Gaga isn’t doing anything at the moment. 

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Just now, Morphine Prince said:

Nah, I’m just popping in whenever something I think is significant happens. I’m avoiding the other toxic parts of this forum. World News section is the main reason I come in here anyway since Gaga isn’t doing anything at the moment. 

World news has been 80% of my reason for being on GGD myself so this detox is a little thought for me right now I'm always tempted to post stuff but I have good reasons to stop for a while

 

In case ur curious about my rant on why I did this 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Halsey said:

Half and half.

 

Some wrote that they saw nothing wrong with it, because they believed their slaves were “less than human”

 

Others fundamentally recognized it was wrong

 

 

This isn't that problematic of a statement though. He misunderstood the perception of race in the colonial era. It’s not like he said “they didn’t know any better”. He was just articulating why it was difficult to overcome bc of SOME people’s opinions about people of color. 

It's not a cute look to be even partly apologetic of slavery. We all know some thought it wasn't wrong. What is he offering to the discussion here by repeating that other than sounding apologetic towards it? 

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a literal non-statement 

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So beyond disgusting. People back then 100% knew it was wrong hence why some slave owners who had a slither of a consciousness would free their slaves or try to "treat them a bit better" etc...meaning there was a guilt factor to owning slaves. People always knew it was horrible. Shame on Pete. For someone as "intellectual" as himself you'd expect him to research something like that a bit more instead of making this baseless statement. 

edit: and to those making the argument that some slave owners truly did not believe it was an issue because they viewed black people as inferior so they had no guilt about owning slaves well isn't that proof that those owners needed a "justification" to ease the sense of guilt or to ease the social idea that owning slaves is wrong? Even those who believed in such BS 100% knew it was wrong. Let's not ease the idea of slavery as simply being something that was normal. It was totally abnormal even though it was common practice. People knew it was horrible...people do horrible things KNOWING it was horrible. Humans can be disgusting. We don't have to absolve humans from knowing what is wrong in order to understand why they do bad things. It's not difficult to believe that people did bad things knowing they were bad.